Rough power gain

1. Sexysaxojames Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2012 Crawley Posts: 158 Saxo vts

   #1 27th January 2013, 18:20

   Just bought some cat cams 743 anyone know how much bhp I should get from these including a chip and map ?
2. Sexysaxojames Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2012 Crawley Posts: 158 Saxo vts

   #2 27th January 2013, 18:20

   Seen some get into 160s somewhere and a load in high 150s
3. Saxjoe Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2012 Northamptonshire Posts: 280 Renault Kangoo and currently saxoless :(

   #3 27th January 2013, 18:27

   +25% bhp
4. Quick Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 7064

   #4 27th January 2013, 18:27

   Don't chip, just get a decent remap!
5. Sexysaxojames Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2012 Crawley Posts: 158 Saxo vts

   #5 27th January 2013, 18:29

   Chip is with the map though
6. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

   #6 27th January 2013, 19:22

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Sexysaxojames Chip is with the map though

   Who told you that?
   
   You dont chip & map a car.
   
   743's will give you a realistic figure from anywere between 145-150hp with a map
7. Sexysaxojames Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2012 Crawley Posts: 158 Saxo vts

   #7 27th January 2013, 20:57

   I went to a place called austec near me, said that's what I get in price
8. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

   #8 27th January 2013, 21:05

   I woldnt use them then......
   
   A chip & a map are completly different things. both CAN be used but never used together.
   
   You wont realisticly make 160hp with just 743's and a map
9. Sexysaxojames Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2012 Crawley Posts: 158 Saxo vts

   #9 10th February 2013, 05:03

   Anyone else got any idea? Have got a bmc and straight through exhaust system
10. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

    #10 10th February 2013, 08:26

    140-150 depending on how good the map is, and cam timing set. But it not about the overall more power you have, it the better curves and torque curves,
11. MartinObviously Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge

    #11 10th February 2013, 08:38

    ANYWHERE between 125 and 150HP realistically at the fly.
    
    Every car is an individual case.
    
    "How much power will I get from cams?" is a very vague question, nobody feckin knows!!!!!!
    
    I mean, it's taken you 2 weeks to think about it so far? What are you hoping for? for someone to tell you a huge power output because that's definitely not going to happen and you'll be disappointed. These cars are getting old.
    
    160HP upwards is getting into ITB + Cams territory there, so I find that hard to believe.
12. jones91 Established Member Joined: Jun 2011 Bridgnorth (Shropshire) Posts: 2001 Jdm Dc2 Integra

    #12 10th February 2013, 11:06

    Depends on mileage and health of the engine tbh and also which exhaust system you have, if you have some cheapo eBay bodge job exhaust it will restrict it more than say a supersprint or piper system, but on average with a decent map it will probably make 145 ish bhp
13. Chief L-plater Joined: Jan 2012 Derby Posts: 40 Renaultsport Clio 197 RB Citroen Saxo VTR Posi 8v

    #13 10th February 2013, 11:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tom5190 I woldnt use them then...... A chip & a map are completly different things. both CAN be used but never used together. You wont realisticly make 160hp with just 743's and a map

    They could be used together. Depends on the ECU. If the ECU has a ROM chip and doesn't have an EPROM chip, you'd need to remove the original chip from the board and replace to be able to reprogram or re-map the ECU. This is where's the term 'chipping' came from.
14. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

    #14 10th February 2013, 11:24

    Yea but thats not the case with and of the saxo/106 ECU's they are all mapable from standard without replacing hardware.
    
    OP to prove what RR you choose has an effect on power heres my spec and the power ive made over 3 roads:
    
    Catcam 743's
    Port & polished TB
    Standard ECU re-map
    Raceland 4-2-1
    Super sprint race centre pipe
    
    Power ive made
    151hp
    146hp
    141hp

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15. Aly Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2007 Sunderland Posts: 10341

    #15 10th February 2013, 12:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tom5190 Yea but thats not the case with and of the saxo/106 ECU's they are all mapable from standard without replacing hardware. OP to prove what RR you choose has an effect on power heres my spec and the power ive made over 3 roads: Catcam 743's Port & polished TB Standard ECU re-map Raceland 4-2-1 Super sprint race centre pipe Power ive made 151hp 146hp 141hp

    Bwarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp
16. Jezzy Newbie Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 2

    #16 13th February 2013, 16:50

    Hi all just a quick question.
    
    I've got a mk2 vtr 2001 with 61, 000 on the clock and I've done the following
    
    Induction kit k & n 57i gen 2
    Cat cams
    Supersprint exhaust
    Super sprint 4-2-1 mani
    
    My question is what would be the advantage of putting a vts/ gear box in..?
    Also a rough bhp after I get it remapped which I've book for next week.?
    
    I no noone can give me a exact number but just roughly I.e 110-120 that sorta thing,
    Any feedback would be appriecated thanks jez
17. MartinObviously Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge

    #17 13th February 2013, 17:33

    VTS has closer gears than a VTR so acceleration is improved.
    
    If you read this thread, you could gain anywhere between 0 and 30HP or so.
    
    Also, WHICH cat cam?! there's loads of different types.
18. Jezzy Newbie Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 2

    #18 13th February 2013, 18:43

    Cool, there the ones off of the kamracing site