99RON Fuel..

20th February 2013, 20:48

I know the difference isnt really felt on a standard-ish car unless being mapped with 99RON fuel etc but would in theory a higher octane fuel help towards pops and bangs? or is it no different? would make tunnel runs a little more fun!

20th February 2013, 21:05

trieed it in my vts made no difference what so ever its alot of extra money for a few pops and bangs i have a 4-2-1 and a full "2 saxsport and it pops too much already fun on a blast out but horrible in town

20th February 2013, 21:07

If anything make my car bang less

20th February 2013, 21:10

Pretty pointless running 97/99 Ron fuel unless your car is either highly tuned, or the cars from another country that naturally uses a higher octane of fuel

Using 99 Ron will make next to no difference on a mildly tuned saxo

20th February 2013, 21:37

Yeah ive got the 3'' Saxsport on mine, cant really hear it popping from the inside, i imagine it does, i remember when my corsa was stripped you could hear it popping all the time yet when it had the interior in couldnt hear nothing, i imagine its the same story for the saxo, I only usually wack in a 10r at a time and for an extra 60p a time if it makes some more pops and bangs then im all up for it.. such a child

20th February 2013, 23:44

You de-catted?

21st February 2013, 00:15

good luck getting a vtr popping on the over run

i get a few now and then, when my 4-1 manifold then straight to back box is really really hot if im lucky not on command like my other car, now thats fun can make people jump on motorway

higher octane fuel burns better you usually get pops and bangs out the back with un burnt fuel

21st February 2013, 00:18

I use normal unleaded fuel. I can get pops and bangs going up and down in my VTS. Sometimes when changing up gears around 6.5k i'll get a pop though. Going down it rumbles with the odd bang

21st February 2013, 00:52

My VTS sounds like thunder in tunnels, I am genuinely not joking.

21st February 2013, 00:59

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Originally Posted by Cam

You de-catted?

I am indeed! with a MK1 Standard mani, does the job!

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Originally Posted by bbracer16valver

good luck getting a vtr popping on the over run

i get a few now and then, when my 4-1 manifold then straight to back box is really really hot if im lucky not on command like my other car, now thats fun can make people jump on motorway

Yeah VTR's dont seem to pop if running correctly! :/

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Originally Posted by Prickle

I use normal unleaded fuel. I can get pops and bangs going up and down in my VTS. Sometimes when changing up gears around 6.5k i'll get a pop though. Going down it rumbles with the odd bang

VTS' love to bang on upshift, if timed right they really do bang aswell! and yeah they crackle on downshift too, got a video on Facebook of my mate 16v with the exhaust which is now on my car, sounds completely different crackles like a goodun on downshift and bangs going back up, dunno if you can see this! Car belongs to samstar on here btw

16v VTR, Supersprint mani, Saxsport 3'' in video (now has 2'' the 3'' is on my car)

https://www.facebook.com/video/video...37670561&saved

21st February 2013, 08:20

pops on upshift you say?

(v old video!) -

21st February 2013, 08:48

my VTR still pops to fuck even with a cat in the system

21st February 2013, 09:43

is the cat empty though?

21st February 2013, 09:52

Nope, just a 4-2-1 and no centre silencer

21st February 2013, 10:12

Not like that ross.

Just got a 421 cat no silencer and 2" tip.

21st February 2013, 10:36

my vts pops and bangs, here is the video

although now she doesn't pop and bang as much as it isd to since changing gearbox to a 1.1 as previously i was using a vtr box!

21st February 2013, 12:43

I think AlexBs car is the best pop/bang TU video ive seen.

21st February 2013, 13:21

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Originally Posted by Prickle

I use normal unleaded fuel. I can get pops and bangs going up and down in my VTS. Sometimes when changing up gears around 6.5k i'll get a pop though. Going down it rumbles with the odd bang

Pretty much the same as me. When my lambda sensor was broken it sounded like a gun everytime i changed gear. It does it now only if everything is hot.

21st February 2013, 14:10

If you want pops and bangs, and it really means that much to you fit an adjustable fuel regulator and a fuel pressure guage

Don't over do it though

21st February 2013, 20:47

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Originally Posted by Ross

pops on upshift you say?

(v old video!) - Citreon Saxo VTS Vs 345 BHP 106GTI - YouTube

I just wee'd a bit, thats epic!

21st February 2013, 20:57

I read somewhere higher octane fuel can help with the pops bangs and crackles but is this not the case then?

21st February 2013, 21:23

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Originally Posted by James93

I read somewhere higher octane fuel can help with the pops bangs and crackles but is this not the case then?

High octane fuel burns slower.

In theory it's more likely to pop because it burns slower but it'll never happen. The key is getting it to run overly rich in order to pop and bang. this is why cars crackle and pop on over run, because the ignition briefly cuts and the injectors still inject fuel. the fuel ignites on the hot exhaust.

Or just stop being a chav

23rd February 2013, 16:11

If anything it it was bad for my vtr.
On 95 I get around 100 miles to 20 quid
On tescos 99 I was getting 60 miles to 20 quid.

With the money you save by getting 95 buy a 4-1 mani. Mine poped like mad when I had mine on

23rd February 2013, 17:34

i find when i get the cheapest fuel from certain supermarket petrol stations it bangs and pops alot more on over run , and the higher octane fuels from better fuel stations doesnt make half as much noise and just costs more. (i only buy higher octane when i have to for obvious reasons a 1.4 saxo doesnt need it)

ive got supersprint manifold , supersprint decat center on to a 3" sportex back box if thats any help.

23rd February 2013, 18:24

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Originally Posted by MartinObviously

High octane fuel burns slower.

In theory it's more likely to pop because it burns slower but it'll never happen. The key is getting it to run overly rich in order to pop and bang. this is why cars crackle and pop on over run, because the ignition briefly cuts and the injectors still inject fuel. the fuel ignites on the hot exhaust.

Or just stop being a chav

Alot of companys e.g K-Tec do a Pop and Bang map for the Clio 182s so I'm guessing it means it runs stupidly rich on overrun like you say,

Now now martin

Chavs a strong word

bit of fun through tunnels! would wind me up if it did it constantly! would much rather it be on demand rather than lifting off casually into any roundabout and its going BANGBANGBANGLOOKATMEBANGBANG! much rather it when giving it the beans when going through tunnels and the like

time and a place

23rd February 2013, 18:33

My turbos mapped for it, she doesn't half gulp it though

lol.

Mine pops and burbles a lot!

23rd February 2013, 18:53

Wanna swap?

I bet she gulps! theyre bad enough as it is! haha.. see its wicked red aswell? best colour imo!

23rd February 2013, 20:17

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Originally Posted by James93

Wanna swap?

I bet she gulps! theyre bad enough as it is! haha.. see its wicked red aswell? best colour imo!

No your alright thanks

yep sure is cheers mate

23rd February 2013, 20:38

what did yours make anderz? didnt realise it had been mapped

23rd February 2013, 21:17

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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5

what did yours make anderz? didnt realise it had been mapped

Yeah Wayne mapped it at Chipwizards, currently running 181 at low boost (6psi) I'm running standard internals aswell, but forging in a few months when I've got some more coin

23rd February 2013, 21:28

yours is vts yeah?

23rd February 2013, 21:33

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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5

yours is vts yeah?

yeah 1.6 16v