Clearance: Satchell Lower Brace vs GMC 4-1

  1. Newbie Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 15
    #1
    Hey Guys,

    does anyone combines the satchell lower brace with the GMC 4-1 manifold, a specially on ja slammed car? (kind of 90mm lowering)

    Some Pics would be great to see if the Brace is higher then the big Collector of the Manifold (good ) or conversely (bad )
  2. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2009 ringwood Posts: 6305 suzuki swift 1.2 sz3
    #2
    90mm of lowering? And you want a lower brace?
    WHY?
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  3. Newbie Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 15
    #3
    Its just the question of producibility. OMP is too low satchell looks better.

    sure its low but, why dont have a stiff car .
  4. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2011 Doncaster Posts: 2627 Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others
    #4
    90mm sounds a bit daft!
  5. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
    #5
    Do you want to constantly smash it off the road because thats what you will do.
  6. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 897 106 ph1 rallye 106 gti 106 hybrid thing GTI~6
    #6
    Got any links to the lower brace?
  7. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
    #7
    after a quicksearch lol





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  8. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Mold Posts: 2936 EP3 Civic Type R
    #8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Daniel1312 View Post

    sure its low but, why dont have a stiff car .
    You do realise that your car is 'stiff' probably due to having zero suspension travel meaning your dampers are bottoming out. If you want the car to handle remotely decent then I think you need to re-think your setup. You'll be able to fit the lower brace then too
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  9. L-plater Joined: May 2012 staffs Posts: 51 106 xsi 16v :)
    #9
    If you are 90mm down at the front mate you will constantly hit the lower brace of the floor. If you want one raise it up a few mm lol
  10. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #10
    im down 60mm and i wouldnt even think about contemplating a lower brace
  11. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #11
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeffchiz View Post
    im down 60mm and i wouldnt even think about contemplating a lower brace
    Same, I struggle as is, my downppipe catches all sorts
  12. Established Member Joined: Sep 2011 Ebbw Vale Posts: 1180 Clio 182 Daily, 106 GTi Track Project
    #12
    I'm down 50 and will probably get a lower brace, just go slow over bumps etc.
    Wouldn't have one if I was lower.
  13. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380
    #13
    warm up the exhaust and make a dint to miss the brace
    I presume you have up rated engine mtgs --a full set!!
    cos otherwise the engine will move about a lot and mkae the problem worse
  14. Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.
    #14
    I'm 50mm down, with a 3" downpipe and exhaust, and it clears my satchell lower brace. Just. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be lower with one though.
  15. Established Member Joined: Feb 2006 Derbyshire Posts: 1815 Black 106 GTi Turbo
    #15
    I'm down around -40mm with a 3" exhaust and catch the floor sometimes, I wouldn't think a lower brace.

    Was down -60mm before and use to smash my lower brace into floor a lot, it was so bad I had to straighten the brace to remove it.

    EDIT: ^^OMP lower brace at -60mm
  16. Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.
    #16
    The satchel brace doesn't sit anywhere near as low as an OMP or similar though.
  17. Established Member Joined: Feb 2006 Derbyshire Posts: 1815 Black 106 GTi Turbo
    #17
    your exhaust must be really close to the road Ross as it goes under the sump. Mines only about 2" max tbh, I've put a bit of a flat spot on it already, not dented, just ground flat by concrete/tarmac
  18. Established Member Joined: Mar 2010 Bradford Posts: 1490 '02 VTR, '92 106 XSI 16v
    #18
    Where can i purchase one of them lower braces from?
  19. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
    #19
    I was about to ask myself I kind like them! and im only going 40mm down too!

    It would look awesome in this Purple [

  20. Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.
    #20
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Roper View Post
    your exhaust must be really close to the road Ross as it goes under the sump. Mines only about 2" max tbh, I've put a bit of a flat spot on it already, not dented, just ground flat by concrete/tarmac
    Time will tell lee lol. We'll see how much of a pain it is. I really don't want to raise the car any, so a downpipe redesign might be in order. Flatter perhaps. Or even a modified sump. There's options still!
  21. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH
    #21
    prickle link me to the the link where that purple is from please.
  22. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
    #22
    https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=e...F%3B1296%3B968
  23. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810
    #23
    my saxo's down 90mm and there's only like 2-3 inches MAX of ground clearance

    fitting one of them braces would probably reduce the ground clearance to an inch, if that lol

    +1 on the being stiff because its bottoming out. It takes alot of work to sort out bottoming out issues and actually have some suspension travel

  24. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380
    #24
    mexican air suspension system?
    then you can alter height to suit and make it jump
    LOL
  25. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #25
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DavidsVTR View Post
    Where can i purchase one of them lower braces from?
    HELLO!

    Colin Satchell Lower Strut Brace
  26. Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.
    #26
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Roper View Post
    your exhaust must be really close to the road Ross as it goes under the sump. Mines only about 2" max tbh, I've put a bit of a flat spot on it already, not dented, just ground flat by concrete/tarmac


    No clearance issues

    However, and most unusual for something from Mr Satchell, the fittings were miles out...

  27. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #27
    Could be a twisted chassis aswel
  28. Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.
    #28
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    Could be a twisted chassis aswel
    On Colins car? That's unfortunate.
  29. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #29
    Thought it was yours

    May just be welded slightl out or machined slightly out
  30. Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.
    #30
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    Thought it was yours

    May just be welded slightl out or machined slightly out
    My chassis isn't twisted
  31. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #31
    Actually

    Looking at that bottom pic, isn't that a big ripple with big welds all over it on the chassis leg? (I'm on phone so pic isn't the biggest)
  32. Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.
    #32
    no - just underseal. Car's never been welded underneath. I've owned it from brand new so pretty sure of it's history!
  33. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #33
    Makes sense

    So that is your car
  34. Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.
    #34
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    Makes sense

    So that is your car
    lol yes
  35. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #35
    Ahhh, you get the brace sorted then?
  36. Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.
    #36
    yeah - fettled it and the car a little and managed to get it to fit - unsure why it was like that tbh, and I've not seen anyone else complain so can only presume it's a one-off. Doesn't matter now tbh - just a hassle!
  37. Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2012 Chesterfield Posts: 355 White mk2 vtr
    #37
    For the sake of your car and your wallet 90mm and a breace screams bad idea.
    Im down 40 and my omp sat about 2 inch off the ground so I took it back off.

    Only do it if you have no speed bumps or potholes anywhere around where you live