VTS head on VTR block

1. Mezza2k11 Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Billingham Posts: 311 Mk1 Punto, Mk2 Saxo VTR, Current Mk3 Ibiza Cupra

   #1 12th March 2013, 19:30

   I currently have an 8v and am thinking of going 16v as my tappets are stupidly loud, I've adjusted them but still no good and people tell I need a new camshaft.
   
   Anyway can you put a 16v head on an 8v block?
   
   Cheers Mike
2. tweeqd Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320

   #2 12th March 2013, 19:32

   yes but you need to drill it for the extra cambelt guide pulley, change the pistons and rods and change the lower cambelt drive gear as the 16v belt is wider
3. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #3 12th March 2013, 19:38

   Its far far easier to just drop the whole 16v unit in.
4. user_4681 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2004 Grimsby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 5489 SUPERCHARGED saxo vts

   #4 12th March 2013, 19:48

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by tweeqd yes but you need to drill it for the extra cambelt guide pulley, change the pistons and rods and change the lower cambelt drive gear as the 16v belt is wider

   no need to drill for extra idler pulley (its already there and tapped)
   
   
   remember i had a 8v forged block wanted to 16v head on it. only issue i had was j4 head has external oil drain/8v has no drain. using a jp4 is way to go with internal drain.
   
   there is a thread on here somewhere if you want to search.
   
   back to original post just 16v convert it with complete engine, ecu and loom
5. tweeqd Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320

   #5 12th March 2013, 20:07

   you must of been lucky stew, ive had about 7 or 8 8v blocks apart and only 1 had the drilling for the pulley
6. Mezza2k11 Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Billingham Posts: 311 Mk1 Punto, Mk2 Saxo VTR, Current Mk3 Ibiza Cupra

   #6 12th March 2013, 20:30

   Right thanks lads! Sounds easier to get the full engine
   
   Mike
7. user_4681 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2004 Grimsby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 5489 SUPERCHARGED saxo vts

   #7 13th March 2013, 10:12

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by tweeqd you must of been lucky stew, ive had about 7 or 8 8v blocks apart and only 1 had the drilling for the pulley

   
   
   For reference it was 99 vtr
8. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

   #8 13th March 2013, 10:15

   And the head bolts are in different positions
9. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

   #9 13th March 2013, 10:22

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by craig180 And the head bolts are in different positions

   Drunk at this time in the morning?
10. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #10 13th March 2013, 11:20

    Lol, they're just diff lengths Craig
11. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

    #11 13th March 2013, 11:22

    Srs? I bought a 16v head to fit to my old VTR and the studs were in a different position altogether.
    
    Thought the blocks were different on VTR and VTS?? Seems I know feck all lol
12. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #12 13th March 2013, 11:23

    Nah just diff lengths Craig, they probs just look diff with the 16v head being alot wider