ITB's Cut scuttle - Inspiration!

  1. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 North East Scotland Posts: 686 Inferno 182, S2 Indigo Rallye
    #1
    Looking to do this to my shell soon, so im just looking for some inspiration really. I would like it to look reasonably tidy.

    Post pics please
  2. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #2
    Should be able to see mine in this letterbox just in the lip so wiper covers ect all still fit

  3. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 North East Scotland Posts: 686 Inferno 182, S2 Indigo Rallye
    #3
    Yeah. I have to get rid of the lip along the top though, as my bodies point quite high (GSXR setup) and currently the filter just wont fit!

    I am going to be using the LHD wiper setup, so I can cut out more than that.
  4. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #4
    I ran no filters due to no chance at all to fit one lol
  5. Established Member Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 1368
    #5
    Way to do it neatest is to cut the hole thing out
  6. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380
    #6
    a small word of warning .
    no i,m not trying to an arsehole
    If you get a very strict mot tester he will fail the car if you make cut out ,unless the put the "strength " back by fitting something else .
    the mot laws say any hole in /rot etc within 30cms of a olad bearing member is a fialure .and as the metal yuo are going to remove is well with in that from rack mountings .strut tops etc they can be a bit pendantic .
    I see no loss of measurable strength by cutting a hole there ,but i would suggest check with the mot tester you intend to use and see what he wants to be happy .
    a tube bewteen strut tops should be enough ,but not for me to say
  7. Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 751
    #7
    if you swage the holes cut that would probably increase the strength of the area compared to the original design.
  8. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #8
    Racks below the pedal box well more than 30mm away
    And i was over 70mm sideways from the strut top mounting with my hole

    Its why it was kept as small as it is
    Only just large enough to feed some air in

    Also i hadnt then removed the chassis number

    EDIT i read that as mm not cm lol
    Oops :/
  9. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast
    #9




    Might be an option?
  10. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380
    #10
    top rack mounting bolt is 29cm,s and the strenthening plate it is attched to is a lot closer ,
    but anyway building it back into a welded box should keep everybody happy and using LHD wiper gives more space,

    a letter box made from small dia CDS tubing welded to the scuttle and extended to strut top sand tacked to the scuttle al the way ,then you can use the scuttle area to get your cold feed ?
  11. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 North East Scotland Posts: 686 Inferno 182, S2 Indigo Rallye
    #11
    Right finally back to a pc!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AlexB View Post
    I ran no filters due to no chance at all to fit one lol
    I will definitely be running a filter on mine!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by axsaxoman View Post
    a small word of warning .
    no i,m not trying to an arsehole
    If you get a very strict mot tester he will fail the car if you make cut out ,unless the put the "strength " back by fitting something else .
    the mot laws say any hole in /rot etc within 30cms of a olad bearing member is a fialure .and as the metal yuo are going to remove is well with in that from rack mountings .strut tops etc they can be a bit pendantic .
    I see no loss of measurable strength by cutting a hole there ,but i would suggest check with the mot tester you intend to use and see what he wants to be happy .
    a tube bewteen strut tops should be enough ,but not for me to say
    Never knew that! Will have a think about it like. What have you done in the past with customers cars?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jpsaxo View Post
    Might be an option?
    I like that. Looks real tidy. How is the air flow into the bodies?
  12. Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 679
    #12
    How do Sandy get away with chopping the scuttle out completely then? I think that is probably the best way for airflow!

    Looks pretty neat too with a welded on brace across.
  13. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast
    #13
    Air flow is reasonably good, it's needs opening up slightly to allow better air flow as we've lost about 5% of power from the engine dyno figure when it was mapped out of the car compared to the rolling road figure obviously with the engine in the car - however this could be a lot of different factors not just scuttle design
  14. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 North East Scotland Posts: 686 Inferno 182, S2 Indigo Rallye
    #14
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jpsaxo View Post
    Air flow is reasonably good, it's needs opening up slightly to allow better air flow as we've lost about 5% of power from the engine dyno figure when it was mapped out of the car compared to the rolling road figure obviously with the engine in the car - however this could be a lot of different factors not just scuttle design
    Hmmm. I do really like the look of yours. I would have to cut the top lip, where the bonnet rubber sits, away though as my fliter has no chance of fitting with that there!

    Got any more pics of yours JP?
  15. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jage View Post
    How do Sandy get away with chopping the scuttle out completely then? I think that is probably the best way for airflow!

    Looks pretty neat too with a welded on brace across.
    He builds engines for race cars
  16. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast
    #16
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bobo0907 View Post
    Hmmm. I do really like the look of yours. I would have to cut the top lip, where the bonnet rubber sits, away though as my fliter has no chance of fitting with that there!

    Got any more pics of yours JP?
    Aren't you running the similar tb's as mine?

  17. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 North East Scotland Posts: 686 Inferno 182, S2 Indigo Rallye
    #17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jpsaxo View Post
    Aren't you running the similar tb's as mine?
    Aye the gsxr setup, but mines is 8v, which point higher
  18. Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 679
    #18
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KamRacing View Post
    He builds engines for race cars
    Gotta point there
  19. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #19
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bobo0907 View Post

    I will definitely be running a filter on mine!
    I cant purely cause of how my bodies fit
    Its too large to fit a decent filter
  20. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast
    #20
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bobo0907 View Post
    Aye the gsxr setup, but mines is 8v, which point higher
    yup, mine are the race set up so slightly different to the ones they sell in the kit i believe
  21. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 North East Scotland Posts: 686 Inferno 182, S2 Indigo Rallye
    #21
    Right, progress so far..

    I cut some of the top lip off:






    I then had to grind off a small lip down the bulkhead, as there was no way to fit the filter unless I took the head off! Might be a bit un-practical that lol




    So just some more tidying up to do. I will run a weld along the part of the bulkhead that I ground off, between the two panels. Then see about strengthening the top. Any ideas for that?
  22. Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 newcastle Posts: 980 2002 silver vts
    #22
    Sorry to hi-jack but what make is that filter and where can I get one?
  23. Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2012 Bradford/Leeds Posts: 775 03 R53 Mini Cooper S with a little extra going on
    #23
    look like itg to me
    demon tweeks