How-to thread for camming a vtr

1. user_43898 Established Member Joined: May 2010 leicester Posts: 1446 Clio 182 Inferno

   #1 7th May 2013, 17:05

   Im about to remove my cylinder head and fit a fast road camshaft, would it be worth me taking pics along the way and making a detailed how to thread thought it might be worth a quick mention
2. andy94 L-plater Joined: Aug 2012 Newcastle Posts: 37 Furio/vts

   #2 7th May 2013, 18:22

   yeah please do
3. jamie1994 Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2012 Milton Keynes Posts: 196 saxo 1.1 desire, saxo vts, Subaru impreza

   #3 7th May 2013, 21:27

   yeah, because after my little mods like vtr/s engine and lower ect i want to cam it
4. martin1985 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2012 North East Posts: 510 EP3 Type R

   #4 7th May 2013, 21:28

   i am thinking about doing this to my vts

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5. user_43898 Established Member Joined: May 2010 leicester Posts: 1446 Clio 182 Inferno

   #5 7th May 2013, 21:45

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   Originally Posted by martin1985 i am thinking about doing this to my vts

   Nice, aleast the vts is easier as you dont need to remove the cylinder head
6. user_43898 Established Member Joined: May 2010 leicester Posts: 1446 Clio 182 Inferno

   #6 7th May 2013, 21:46

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   Originally Posted by jamie1994 yeah, because after my little mods like vtr/s engine and lower ect i want to cam it

   Cool, il definatly make a how-to thread then, even if only a few benefit from it.

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7. ns9900 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2012 123 happy land, worcestershire/surrey Posts: 798 saxo vtr 2002

   #7 7th May 2013, 21:54

   ii'll be keeping a keen eye as im in the process of getting a vtr track car cams and remap will be first on the list for power gains
8. Aaron Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2008 ..... Posts: 5231 ..............

   #8 7th May 2013, 23:50

   i always thought you could remove the camshaft with the head still attached to the block...... (8v) dont you just jack the engine up & pull it out the side?
9. elliotthorwood Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2012 bristol Posts: 168 Mk1 (mk2 in disguise) vtr turbo.. sort of. (N3 EBH

   #9 8th May 2013, 00:00

   I thought every saxo came cammed :/
   
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10. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

    #10 8th May 2013, 00:19

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    Originally Posted by Aaron i always thought you could remove the camshaft with the head still attached to the block...... (8v) dont you just jack the engine up & pull it out the side?

    You do if you know what you are doing.
    
    

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    Originally Posted by elliotthorwood I thought every saxo came cammed :/

    Should of seen my face when i came to cam mine but there was already one in there. I was like WTF and threw it in the bin.

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11. user_43898 Established Member Joined: May 2010 leicester Posts: 1446 Clio 182 Inferno

    #11 8th May 2013, 01:29

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    Originally Posted by Aaron i always thought you could remove the camshaft with the head still attached to the block...... (8v) dont you just jack the engine up & pull it out the side?

    There are ways but... Reason 1 is my headgasket is seeping oil anyway so its getting a gasket regardless, and reason 2 is that the roller rockers on the later mk2 engine are bolted down with the headbolts, the only way to get the cam in and out is to slacken off the head bolts completly as the tension from the valve springs acting on the rockers wont allow the cam to be removed.
    
    I would never slacken off the headbolts and not change the headgasket, your asking for trouble. Im a fully skilled mechanic by trade and i like to do things properly, rather than strip it all down again a week later and i wouldnt advise anyone to do it any other way , considering a h/g is £20
12. user_43898 Established Member Joined: May 2010 leicester Posts: 1446 Clio 182 Inferno

    #12 8th May 2013, 01:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by elliotthorwood I thought every saxo came cammed :/ Sent from my iPad 4 using tapatalk 3

    are you playing or are you that simples
13. user_43898 Established Member Joined: May 2010 leicester Posts: 1446 Clio 182 Inferno

    #13 8th May 2013, 01:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ns9900 ii'll be keeping a keen eye as im in the process of getting a vtr track car cams and remap will be first on the list for power gains

    Thanks for the decent comment
14. user_43898 Established Member Joined: May 2010 leicester Posts: 1446 Clio 182 Inferno

    #14 8th May 2013, 01:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bedford126 You do if you know what you are doing.

    If you know what you are doing then you would do it properly and change the headgasket unless you can take the camshaft out without removing the head bolts
15. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

    #15 8th May 2013, 01:35

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    Originally Posted by SnakeVTR i wouldnt advise anyone to do it any other way , considering a h/g is £20

    +timing belt kit
    +water pump if you are smart
    +head skim
    
    All adds up mate. When I did mine I was way over £150 for service parts never mind the cam.

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16. user_43898 Established Member Joined: May 2010 leicester Posts: 1446 Clio 182 Inferno

    #16 8th May 2013, 01:40

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    Originally Posted by Bedford126 +timing belt kit +water pump if you are smart +head skim All adds up mate. When I did mine I was way over £150 for service parts never mind the cam.

    Yeah i agree mate, it always come to more than you think. Mines had a waterpump and new cambelt. Used a straight edge on the head and couldnt even get a .003 feeler gauge under at any point lol. I was well shocked
17. user_63384 Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2013 Fife burntisland Posts: 154 Saxo vts bmw e36 325

    #17 8th May 2013, 19:27

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    Originally Posted by Bedford126 +timing belt kit +water pump if you are smart +head skim All adds up mate. When I did mine I was way over £150 for service parts never mind the cam.

    would I need to change timing belt when I cam my vts it had a new belt 2months ago. Will be getting it cammed in 2wks
18. user_43898 Established Member Joined: May 2010 leicester Posts: 1446 Clio 182 Inferno

    #18 8th May 2013, 20:04

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    Originally Posted by Dogg1210 would I need to change timing belt when I cam my vts it had a new belt 2months ago. Will be getting it cammed in 2wks

    If the belt is already new then it will not need replacing, removing and refitting the belt will have no effect on its life

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