Engine blew up on the way to work

1. AndyMack Newbie Joined: Mar 2013 Glasgow Posts: 25 Saxo VTS, phase 2 in silver.

   #1 13th May 2013, 10:23

   Hello,
   
   My saxo went "pop" today on the way to work. I had a pretty bad oil leak and smoked out the bad on high revs. I opened the bonnet but theres no signs of visable damage to the engine. Wasnt sure if someone blew a whole through it.
   
   Any ideas what might have broke and whats the best move now? Engine rebuild or replacement engine?
   
   Cheers
   
   Andy Mack
2. m4tt274 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2011 Doncaster Posts: 2627 Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others

   #2 13th May 2013, 10:29

   i dont think i would bother rebuilding it regardless.
   Did it smoke before it went bang, or was there a bang, and then it now runs smokey?
3. AndyMack Newbie Joined: Mar 2013 Glasgow Posts: 25 Saxo VTS, phase 2 in silver.

   #3 13th May 2013, 10:30

   It smoked before it went bang. but only over about 4000rpm.
4. jones91 Established Member Joined: Jun 2011 Bridgnorth (Shropshire) Posts: 2001 Jdm Dc2 Integra

   #4 13th May 2013, 10:38

   Sounds like piston/piston ring failure, easier to get a new engine tbh
5. AndyMack Newbie Joined: Mar 2013 Glasgow Posts: 25 Saxo VTS, phase 2 in silver.

   #5 13th May 2013, 11:21

   Any idea where is the best place to get 1? ebay? a Scrappy? I cant see the for sale section because i dont have the forum posts.
6. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

   #6 13th May 2013, 11:29

   Check ebay.
   
   May even be worth getting a C2 VTS engine put in.
   
   Lower miles overall, just needs a few tweeks to get it working.
7. AndyMack Newbie Joined: Mar 2013 Glasgow Posts: 25 Saxo VTS, phase 2 in silver.

   #7 13th May 2013, 11:37

   How can you check an engine is ok while its out a car?
8. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

   #8 13th May 2013, 11:56

   I would take it too a garage.
   
   Tbh it doesnt sound like you'd know if it was sat in front of you.
   
   No offence, as i'd be exactly the same...
9. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

   #9 13th May 2013, 12:02

   How do you know its gone bang? ie: what are the symptoms and does it even start anymore?
10. AndyMack Newbie Joined: Mar 2013 Glasgow Posts: 25 Saxo VTS, phase 2 in silver.

    #10 13th May 2013, 12:07

    It actually went "pop" then there was a noticable loss in power and heavy vibration from the engine.
    
    It does still run, not tried to start it since it went pop though. It feels like its running on 2 cylinders.
11. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #11 13th May 2013, 12:09

    sounds like needs pulling apart really to identify the cause, if it was smoking etc
12. user_12874 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 London, England Posts: 734 Saxo VTS, Audi A6 Avant Quattro.

    #12 13th May 2013, 12:12

    I wouldn't write the engine off, could be a number or reasonably simply fixes.
13. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #13 13th May 2013, 12:40

    Might just be the head gasket has blown, where was it leaking oil from?
14. user_10418 Saxperience Addict Joined: Jun 2006 Wirral Posts: 13584 Wickerd red VTS MK2, Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..

    #14 13th May 2013, 14:14

    Good excuse to drop VTS engine in mate.....
15. burgin2011 Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2011 alfreton Posts: 533 saxoo vtr mk1, 104bhp

    #15 13th May 2013, 14:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxokid100 Good excuse to drop VTS engine in mate.....

    hes already got a vts
16. AndyMack Newbie Joined: Mar 2013 Glasgow Posts: 25 Saxo VTS, phase 2 in silver.

    #16 13th May 2013, 18:56

    Ok managed to drive it home gently and start to have a look at it.
    
    It looks like its blown the coil/spark plugs in the #2 and #4 (from the left) cylinders. the #2 coil is actually blown to pieces and the spark plug has actually broken at the top.
17. robster247 Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 cumbria Posts: 1239 Satin black furio

    #17 13th May 2013, 19:03

    My 1.4 detonated on the dual carriage way didn't know what had happened at first but pulled over and looked up the rad to see a trail of oil. Opened the bonnet and it was obvious that the conrod had snapped.
    
    It had snapped the rod in three
    Came through the front and back of the block
    Smashed the skirt off the piston
    Smashed the oil pump clean off
    Sheered all the teeth off the oil pump pulley
    Snapped the chain
    Smashed the water pump out of the block
    And destroyed the liner
    All what was holding that side of the block together was the head and sump
    
    All in all it still ran, just very lumpy haha.All I changed was the bottom end and its still fine 8 months down the line.
    
    Moral of the story is you don't just have to go and get a complete engine.
18. AndyMack Newbie Joined: Mar 2013 Glasgow Posts: 25 Saxo VTS, phase 2 in silver.

    #18 13th May 2013, 19:30

    I plan to give it a go if it is something thats fixable.
    
    £80 for a new coil! bloody hell!
    
    Anyone near Glasgow i could borrow their coil to see if it works when i plug it in?
19. AndyMack Newbie Joined: Mar 2013 Glasgow Posts: 25 Saxo VTS, phase 2 in silver.

    #19 15th May 2013, 10:33

    So was looking at Euro car parts for the coil. Whats the difference between the 3?
    
    Mine is a W-Reg, 2000 mark 2.
    
    http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Ci...1085a1c&000197
    http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Ci...e63d446&000197
    http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Ci...9aa0a6a&000197
20. Michaeld33 Newbie Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 11

    #20 15th May 2013, 10:54

    I am out in erskine if you want to come or can make it out here buddy cars going no where the now anyway.
21. AndyMack Newbie Joined: Mar 2013 Glasgow Posts: 25 Saxo VTS, phase 2 in silver.

    #21 15th May 2013, 11:04

    I doubt it will make it that far to be honest. im south side of glasgow so that be a drive.
22. Michaeld33 Newbie Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 11

    #22 15th May 2013, 11:26

    where abouts in the southside are you if you are about tomorrow I could strip mine off or drive over to yours tomorrow. Got alot on today
23. AndyMack Newbie Joined: Mar 2013 Glasgow Posts: 25 Saxo VTS, phase 2 in silver.

    #23 15th May 2013, 12:28

    Rutherglen.
24. AndyMack Newbie Joined: Mar 2013 Glasgow Posts: 25 Saxo VTS, phase 2 in silver.

    #24 15th May 2013, 12:29

    yeah im off work tomorrow so free anytime.
25. Michaeld33 Newbie Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 11

    #25 15th May 2013, 15:19

    I have a job that will take me to lunch will throw a seat in the car and run over to yours pm your mobile and I will sort a time with you