How to tell if cammed?

1. user_64763 Established Member Joined: Jun 2013 York Posts: 2134 Citroen Saxo VTR (2001)

   #1 10th September 2013, 13:14

   When I bought my Saxo VTR a few months back, I was told it was cammed but no receipts or anything to prove it (as usual!) but I think it might be, I've spoken to a few people who have owned VTRs and pretty much all of them have said VTRs are flat out across the rev range, but when mine gets to 3k rpm, the exhaust note changes and it just takes off!
   Can anyone have a guess as to whether its been cammed and whether they're race or road cams or what? I also have a 4-2-1 with a full powerful straight through system if that helps
   Cheers
2. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

   #2 10th September 2013, 13:20

   I thought it was just VTS owners tha said this but VTR owners aswell lol.
3. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

   #3 10th September 2013, 13:25

   Probability says its not.
   
   The CAM (singular) should have numbers/markings on it somewhere I believe.
4. user_46658 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2010 Little Mill, South Wales Posts: 7547 Mondeo ST TDCI Saxo VTS

   #4 10th September 2013, 13:35

   Can you do 60 in 2nd?
5. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

   #5 10th September 2013, 13:58

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jbrady72 When I bought my Saxo VTR a few months back, I was told it was cammed but no receipts or anything to prove it (as usual!) but I think it might be, I've spoken to a few people who have owned VTRs and pretty much all of them have said VTRs are flat out across the rev range, but when mine gets to 3k rpm, the exhaust note changes and it just takes off! Can anyone have a guess as to whether its been cammed and whether they're race or road cams or what? I also have a 4-2-1 with a full powerful straight through system if that helps Cheers

   that would suggest it is --lift rocker cover and look for codes on end of cam
6. user_64763 Established Member Joined: Jun 2013 York Posts: 2134 Citroen Saxo VTR (2001)

   #6 10th September 2013, 14:14

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Brettles1986 Can you do 60 in 2nd?

   Yeah it'll do bout 65 at a push in 2nd!
7. user_64763 Established Member Joined: Jun 2013 York Posts: 2134 Citroen Saxo VTR (2001)

   #7 10th September 2013, 14:16

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Prickle I thought it was just VTS owners tha said this but VTR owners aswell lol.

   Lol tbf I asked a few people with VTS' and they had a good moan about VTRs etc but then the people who owned a VTR said they had heard that VTS' arent as flat etc, they didn't winge half as much as VTS owners
8. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

   #8 10th September 2013, 14:34

   Take the cam cap off the end of the end of the head behind the thermostat/under where the coil pack (on early models). If its got a letter on it chances are its an OEM cam. That said if its says J or Z its the equivalent of a mild aftermarket cam
9. mlawlan69 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2010 leeds Posts: 4389 MCS R53 S/C 16v furiooo

   #9 10th September 2013, 14:45

   lmao.
   
   all saxos are cammed i thought that was common knowledge :rolleyes:
10. user_64763 Established Member Joined: Jun 2013 York Posts: 2134 Citroen Saxo VTR (2001)

    #10 10th September 2013, 16:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mlawlan69 lmao. all saxos are cammed i thought that was common knowledge :rolleyes:

    Haha yeess I know every Saxo that's up for sale has been cammed but has no receipts to prove, but the kick my car has at about 3k rpm got me wondering as to whether this one actually has been!
11. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #11 10th September 2013, 16:51

    novelty will wear off im sure. How long you had it and what size engine you came from?
12. user_64763 Established Member Joined: Jun 2013 York Posts: 2134 Citroen Saxo VTR (2001)

    #12 10th September 2013, 16:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Prickle novelty will wear off im sure. How long you had it and what size engine you came from?

    Haha it already is doing and I came from a 1.3 but I do quite a lot of Go Karting and car racing in 300bhp Mk5 Golf GTis and driven quite a few supercars as well so I'm well used to speed but I was just wondering whether my car is cammed or not!
13. user_15300 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Mansfield Posts: 6663 Astra Coupe Edition 100

    #13 16th September 2013, 12:25

    I'm going to say it's not cammed (like i just said on FB lol). I bought a standard cam to have reprofiled but i ended up selling the car before i got round to it.
    
    The lad i sold it to couldn't even be arsed to stick the passenger Sparco in, so why would he cam it? And it's been abused ever since the day i sold it 'til you buying it, hence the state of it when you bought it.

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14. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #14 16th September 2013, 14:09

    its probably just the sound of that powerflow getting you all excited
15. user_64763 Established Member Joined: Jun 2013 York Posts: 2134 Citroen Saxo VTR (2001)

    #15 16th September 2013, 14:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LSOfreak its probably just the sound of that powerflow getting you all excited

    Hahaha it does make me a little bit excited
16. Dany4494 Established Member Joined: May 2012 West Yorkshire Posts: 1806 Civic EP2

    #16 16th September 2013, 15:05

    You sure its not vtec
17. user_64763 Established Member Joined: Jun 2013 York Posts: 2134 Citroen Saxo VTR (2001)

    #17 16th September 2013, 15:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dany4494 You sure its not vtec

    GENIUS! I think i have a VTEC actually! Hahahah im gonna shout "VTEC kick in yo!" whenever I hit 3k rpm now
18. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #18 16th September 2013, 16:28

    so did you check for codes then?
19. user_64763 Established Member Joined: Jun 2013 York Posts: 2134 Citroen Saxo VTR (2001)

    #19 16th September 2013, 16:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gandi699 so did you check for codes then?

    Nooo not done it yet, been busy! But the car is going end of this week so no point really, was just wondering as to what people thought!
20. benhomer Newbie Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 9

    #20 16th September 2013, 20:17

    mines the same but at 4k :/
21. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #21 17th September 2013, 19:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by devilsadvocate Probability says its not. The CAM (singular) should have numbers/markings on it somewhere I believe.

    technically his vtr dose have CAMS (plural), but one CAMSHAFT(singular).
22. Farqueue L-plater Joined: Aug 2013 Consett, County Durham Posts: 36 Saxo VTR 2002

    #22 17th September 2013, 19:18

    Mine kicks at 3.5 to 4k rpm and changes engine noise and hits 60mph without a fuss and mines as standard... no mods (yet) so I would suggest it isnt