Sony to disallow reselling of games

  1. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390
    #1
    Theyve updated their Terms Of Service to include sections about disc based software and how a user is not allowed to resell or otherwise trade games unless expressly authorised to do so by Sony and any other publisher.

    Sony say that the terms will not affect your rights to resell games. But if thats the case, why have they added them?
  2. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a
    #2
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gabbastard View Post
    Theyve updated their Terms Of Service to include sections about disc based software and how a user is not allowed to resell or otherwise trade games unless expressly authorised to do so by Sony and any other publisher.

    Sony say that the terms will not affect your rights to resell games. But if thats the case, why have they added them?
    "a user is not allowed to resell or otherwise trade games "
    "the terms will not affect your rights to resell games"

    Bit of a contradiction by Sony there, either the news has been misquoted or it's been misunderstood.
  3. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390
    #3
    Id take it as Sony got caught on the hop and are trying to PR spin it. Could be theyre planning it for the future.

    Its only a matter of time though, as thats the way Steam works.
  4. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
    #4
    I can't see it happening but we'll see.

    I don't know why either consoles even started this. If you buy the hard copy it's YOURS to sell, smash, trade or do whatever you like. As it's always been, right? it's starting to get abit stupid now

    Digital stuff you can't even copy anyway or sell on
  5. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390
    #5
    by law you arent buying the game or even the disc the game is on: youre only buying a licence to play that game which is a bastard.

    Ultimately its all down to money. Steam is taking in a fortune, and you cant sell or trade games on that. Take distributors and retailers out of the equation and your company makes fuckloads more profit, even at a lower retail price.
  6. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
    #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gabbastard View Post
    by law you arent buying the game or even the disc the game is on: youre only buying a licence to play that game which is a bastard.

    Ultimately its all down to money. Steam is taking in a fortune, and you cant sell or trade games on that. Take distributors and retailers out of the equation and your company makes fuckloads more profit, even at a lower retail price.
    Are steam games 1 code use games only?

    I wonder if thats coming for us.
  7. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 7508
    #7
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Prickle View Post
    Are steam games 1 code use games only?

    I wonder if thats coming for us.
    Would not surprise me
  8. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2010 Lincoln Posts: 5642 1985 E28 BMW 525E 2.7
    #8
    http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/11/1...rms-of-service

    That was hard to find out...
  9. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2013 Jarrow Posts: 4022 2003 Icelandic Grey 16v VTR 1991 Daihatsu GTti
    #9
    EA games were similar until recently, if you bought the second hand game you had to buy the online code as well.

    What I don't understand is how a game can be more expensive on the Playstation Store, not as many costs etc it mental.
  10. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390
    #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mickswan View Post
    EA games were similar until recently, if you bought the second hand game you had to buy the online code as well.

    What I don't understand is how a game can be more expensive on the Playstation Store, not as many costs etc it mental.
    maximum profit y0.
  11. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390
    #11
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Prickle View Post
    I wonder if thats coming for us.
    almost definitely. With digital distribution you cut out everything in the supply chain so all that lost profit is back into your company. And if youre the only one selling it, you set whatever price you want. Great business model really.

    Steam are going to be launching their own console soon, so thatll sell a fair bit and push games ever closer to download only.
  12. Established Member Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 1368
    #12
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gabbastard View Post
    by law you arent buying the game or even the disc the game is on: youre only buying a licence to play that game which is a bastard.
    going on that then, surely if you snap your disc, sony/who ever should send you one out to continue playing???
  13. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390
    #13
    no, the disc is only a means to an end, its you who broke it. However sales laws protect you if it fails due to poor manufacture
  14. Saxperience Addict Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 11714 A6 Le Mans tuned/A3 TFSI tuned
    #14
    Will depend on the game manufacturer, I wouldn't be surprised if EA decided to go ahead and charge second hand fees through an online activation code. Trying to grab maximum money as their old games such as fifa 09, tigerwoods 10 etc are worth almost sweet fuck all on the second hand market.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by monka View Post
    going on that then, surely if you snap your disc, sony/who ever should send you one out to continue playing???
    most games companies include that in the game manual. You can send them the broken disc and a fee, then they'll send you a new copy back to you. That's been going on for yonks, playstation one era as far back as I can remember.

    Snapping a disc is almost 100%unlikely to happen if you take adequate care, in the exception of a faulty disc drive. I used to have a PS2 that would scratch discs near the center.
  15. Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2004 Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 11649 FN2 Civic Type-R
    #15
    I don't see what the problem is with just downloading the games from playstation network...

    You can download the game on up to 5 machines... So just go halfs with someone and you will only have to pay half the price for the game
  16. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2013 Jarrow Posts: 4022 2003 Icelandic Grey 16v VTR 1991 Daihatsu GTti
    #16
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    I don't see what the problem is with just downloading the games from playstation network...

    You can download the game on up to 5 machines... So just go halfs with someone and you will only have to pay half the price for the game
    Tried that not long ago, had no joy.
  17. Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2004 Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 11649 FN2 Civic Type-R
    #17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mickswan View Post
    Tried that not long ago, had no joy.
    I'm not sure why... Me and my brother do this with most games

    We have done it with gta 5 and also cod ghosts and both work fine

    He also has playstation plus, so I just log in as him on my ps3 then download the game of the month for free and all is fine when I log back in as me
  18. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2013 Jarrow Posts: 4022 2003 Icelandic Grey 16v VTR 1991 Daihatsu GTti
    #18
    When I done this for the nap packs on black ops two it said no. However a few months earlier I put all the bf3 map packs on my mates no problem. I must have just fucked it some how.
  19. Newbie Joined: Apr 2016 Surrey Posts: 11 Saxo Desire 03
    #19
    It won't be long before more company's do it, steam has done it and look how much they are making and as a big PC gamer I prefer to just be able to download them, it means I don't have to keep putting a disc in and out and risk it getting scratched and then not working, steam is great buy it, download it as many times as you like as long as you are logged in


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  20. Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2015 Posts: 269 106 Rallye
    #20
    *Cough* 3 year old thread... *Cough*