saxo-vtec

1. SaxoVtec Newbie Joined: Nov 2013 Peterborough Posts: 2 Saxo vts

   #1 29th November 2013, 12:30

   Ok so, we all know that turbo saxo's and cammed saxo's have been done a million times over so, I am wanting to go different, Honda civic type r ep3 engine with my saxo shell, this is going to be a bit of a pain to do so anyone with any knowledge on conversions would be a big help,
2. wullvfr Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 killin,perthshire Posts: 1561 Audi a3 1.8sport,kawasaki zx9r c2,Yamaha R1 track

   #2 29th November 2013, 12:34

   Z cars do a kit for throwing in a vtec engine ifhe rear of a saxo but its very costly.
   
   Check their website out
   
   http://www.zcars.org.uk/
3. wullvfr Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 killin,perthshire Posts: 1561 Audi a3 1.8sport,kawasaki zx9r c2,Yamaha R1 track

   #3 29th November 2013, 12:36

   I just had a look and I can't see the kit for the saxo anymore.
   
   I'm sure they use to do it.
4. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

   #4 29th November 2013, 12:38

   I havent looked into it, but Id imagine it isnt that hard; one of the guys on the AXOC has a vtec (im sure its a b18) in his AX and he did all the work himself. Thats mounted in the engine bay, not in the boot.
   
   Still sounds fucking horrible though lol
5. SaxoVtec Newbie Joined: Nov 2013 Peterborough Posts: 2 Saxo vts

   #5 29th November 2013, 12:41

   I would prefer the engine in the front not rear and I think its possible just I need to know stiff like will I need custom drive shafts or will the ep3 ones fit and stuff like this
6. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

   #6 29th November 2013, 12:44

   Youll deffo need custom shafts for a start. And custom mounts, and custom exhaust. Everything will need to be custom.
7. wullvfr Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 killin,perthshire Posts: 1561 Audi a3 1.8sport,kawasaki zx9r c2,Yamaha R1 track

   #7 29th November 2013, 12:46

   I wonder how much this would cost?
   
   Would it not be more cost effective to turbo the j4 unit and have barrels of fun.
8. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

   #8 29th November 2013, 12:49

   Shafts aside you could do the majority of it if youre handy. But given the arseache, time spent doing it, the fact so many tuning paths have been well trodden with regards to the Saxo and hence availability of parts, Im not sure its worth it.
   
   I did consider, and size up a 206 GTi engine to go in my AX though
9. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

   #9 30th November 2013, 10:32

   just buy a del sol vti and use all the parts off that just need to cut then weld mounts in measure up shafts wire it up off you go
10. Dave_P Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI

    #10 30th November 2013, 19:29

    Isn't someone on here doing this already?
11. ThrushMotorsport Established Member Joined: Jan 2011 Aberdeen Posts: 1092 Turbo Saxo vtr, 2010 Octavia VRS TSI, mk3 Ibiza cu

    #11 30th November 2013, 19:35

    Dave, no - it was done a few years ago, was a z-car subframe in the boot, RWD k20 from an ep3
12. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

    #12 30th November 2013, 19:43

    Not easy or cheap, does it fit... Yea, just
13. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

    #13 2nd December 2013, 12:12

    simple and best way is get complete front end inc all suspension and brakes and subframe etc
    then cut saxo shell to fit the whole assembly
14. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

    #14 2nd December 2013, 12:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by axsaxoman simple and best way is get complete front end inc all suspension and brakes and subframe etc then cut saxo shell to fit the whole assembly

    To me that's making more work that's needed. The CTR subframe only connects to the engine in 1-2places on the front and rear mounts, you would still have to fab up all the other engine mounts.. Come to think of it the only advantage I could think of is being able to use civic driveshafts and wheels and the driveshafts are easy enough to do
15. user_17444 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Netherlands Posts: 154 Saxo VTR '96(K.I.A.) Saxo 16V VTS '01

    #15 3rd December 2013, 09:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dannygti To me that's making more work that's needed. The CTR subframe only connects to the engine in 1-2places on the front and rear mounts, you would still have to fab up all the other engine mounts.. Come to think of it the only advantage I could think of is being able to use civic driveshafts and wheels and the driveshafts are easy enough to do

    Danny, you're swapping in a K20 right? Still going with the Borg Warner EFR?
    Any progress on that monster of a project?
16. slammed106 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 291

    #16 3rd December 2013, 10:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by axsaxoman simple and best way is get complete front end inc all suspension and brakes and subframe etc then cut saxo shell to fit the whole assembly

    
    
    Riiiiiiiiiiiiggghhhtttt........
17. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

    #17 3rd December 2013, 17:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rowan Danny, you're swapping in a K20 right? Still going with the Borg Warner EFR? Any progress on that monster of a project?

    No mate unfortunately not