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  1. Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2013 Hook Posts: 181 51 plate, silver 1.1 saxo
    #1
    hey guys I have my little 1.1, 51 plate silver saxo

    what I want to find out from this thread is where to start in terms of modifying it. I have a cone filter already (not yet fitted) and that is all. I welcome any suggestions as to what can be done. when I bought then car is was ready lowered (torsion bar adjusted on the rear, lowering springs on the front) and I also have alloys for it.

    depending on my situation in the next couple of years will depend on how serious I am with this car (in terms of trying to make it actually quite quick) but for now I just want to make it nippy.

    lets just say that for the moment I would be happy for it to crack sub 10's to 60. nothing mental , just nippy
  2. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
    #2
    to get any kind of performance out of it on a sensible budget you will need to change the engine. What engine you go for depends on personal preference, insurance costs and how much power you want
  3. Newbie Joined: Mar 2013 Newton Abbot Posts: 5 Citroen Saxo VTR phase 2
    #3
    Hi, I brought a stock 1.4i Saxo and started with obvious things!

    Air filter
    Exhaust + De-cat
    Stockport Manifold
    Manifold cover
    Show cage
    Lowered front and rear
    Vts interior
    Show cage
    Side light, dipped beam bulbs, rear n/p bulbs
    And then all your personal touches on top!
  4. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 killin,perthshire Posts: 1561 Audi a3 1.8sport,kawasaki zx9r c2,Yamaha R1 track
    #4
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gandi699 View Post
    to get any kind of performance out of it on a sensible budget you will need to change the engine. What engine you go for depends on personal preference, insurance costs and how much power you want

    This would be your best bet,it won't cost that much either and if you're handy enough with a spanner then it should be even cheaper.

    Most conversions that are for sale come with everything you need and usually sell for less than £500.
  5. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #5
    Forget power. It is not going to happen with this engine.
    Manifold and exhaust to sound good, a proper suspension kit to get the car low and handling well, then look at cosmetic mods to improve the style.
  6. Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2013 Hook Posts: 181 51 plate, silver 1.1 saxo
    #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KamRacing View Post
    Forget power. It is not going to happen with this engine.
    Manifold and exhaust to sound good, a proper suspension kit to get the car low and handling well, then look at cosmetic mods to improve the style.
    i am not looking for huge power, just a little bit of a boost

    i should be certainly capable of an engine change and i have looked into it and the prices dont sound too bad

    but then again for ease the obvious air and exhaust mods sound cheaper...

    i thought of these already but which ones are tried, tested and seem most beneficial for cost?
  7. Established Member Joined: May 2012 West Yorkshire Posts: 1806 Civic EP2
    #7
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 668vtr View Post
    Hi, I brought a stock 1.4i Saxo and started with obvious things!

    Air filter
    Exhaust + De-cat
    Stockport Manifold
    Manifold cover
    Show cage
    Lowered front and rear
    Vts interior
    Show cage
    Side light, dipped beam bulbs, rear n/p bulbs
    And then all your personal touches on top!
    How many bhp did the vtr badge give ?
  8. Banned Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 411
    #8
    The price of a good cold air feed, 421/41 manifold and decent exhaust system is about £300 all in if you buy 2nd hand and £400 if you buy new, and will see you about 10bhp in total if your lucky, a vtr engine and unlocked ecu that will fit straight in place of your current engine and ecu (no need to cut or swap looms) will come in at about £100/£200 and will come standard at 90bhp or 98bhp depending on year of engine.... Then if that's not enough power looks at cams/exhaust/intake/polishing/porting/remaps/lightening and balancing or BOOST! Everyone says it I used to hate it but it's simply so much easier to swap the engines, and if you would prefer VTS/GTI lump it's almost the same process engine bolts in exhaust will match up , the the correct loom and it will plug straight in and then ecu and that's 130 bhp standard
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  9. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #9
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kizmo22 View Post
    i am not looking for huge power, just a little bit of a boost

    i should be certainly capable of an engine change and i have looked into it and the prices dont sound too bad

    but then again for ease the obvious air and exhaust mods sound cheaper...

    i thought of these already but which ones are tried, tested and seem most beneficial for cost?
    If you are going to do an engine change then consider replacing the car. Saxo's are rock bottom. VTR and VTS's are going for under £500. So cheap my neighbour has at least four parked outside lol
  10. Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2013 Hook Posts: 181 51 plate, silver 1.1 saxo
    #10
    cool, cheers dude

    and they arent quite that cheap, my uncle just sold a vtr for £1000 soo...

    plus my saxo cost more than £500
  11. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
    #11
    They are that cheap if you look in the right places though. You can't give VTRs away on here


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  12. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 killin,perthshire Posts: 1561 Audi a3 1.8sport,kawasaki zx9r c2,Yamaha R1 track
    #12
    There is plenty about for sale in and around £500-£800

    I picked mine up for £300 as a non runner hoping it was something simple,but I had to replace the engine.

    I picked up a j4 unit for £190 delivered and then due to lack of time and space got it fitted by my local garage with timing belt kit etc etc so all in it cost me £950

    If I had done the work myself it would have be much cheaper @£550 with service parts etc but I was a bit flush at the time.
  13. Banned Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 411
    #13
    Got one for £50 furio but had light front end damage so cold it and got a MINT 2001 desire 1.1 for £100 with tax and mot 60k on the clock full service history and it's just had a brand new rear beams, timing belt aux belt, lower arms, battery, wheel bearings and exhaust was shocked when I see the paper work that came with the car don't think il ever sell it purely because what I've paid and how good of a base it is aha, saxo's are at there lowest at the moment
  14. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2011 Doncaster Posts: 2627 Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others
    #14
    I paid £375 for my current VTR off a lad on here as you see it in the picture. 61K, cambelt, clutch, 7 months test and no problems.


    Yes they are that cheap.
    If your uncle got a grand for a VTR he got a very very good price; of the last 10 to sell on ebay none have been over £600

    I would give yours a good detail, service it and replace anything it needs. Decide if you like saxos and save for a VTR/S/106GTI or something different.

    Want it to be nippy, put a VTR engine in it.
    But dont bother doing anything to it, aftermarket bits wont make a scrap of difference.
  15. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 killin,perthshire Posts: 1561 Audi a3 1.8sport,kawasaki zx9r c2,Yamaha R1 track
    #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by m4tt274 View Post
    I paid £375 for my current VTR off a lad on here as you see it in the picture. 61K, cambelt, clutch, 7 months test and no problems.


    Yes they are that cheap.
    If your uncle got a grand for a VTR he got a very very good price; of the last 10 to sell on ebay none have been over £600

    I would give yours a good detail, service it and replace anything it needs. Decide if you like saxos and save for a VTR/S/106GTI or something different.

    Want it to be nippy, put a VTR engine in it.
    But dont bother doing anything to it, aftermarket bits wont make a scrap of difference.
    With the wheels as well?if so that's a even better bargain
  16. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2011 Doncaster Posts: 2627 Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others
    #16
    Yeah came on the chrono's. Liwigmore or whats his name advertised it for a good few weeks before i bought it too, just no interest in them anymore.
  17. Newbie Joined: Mar 2013 Newton Abbot Posts: 5 Citroen Saxo VTR phase 2
    #17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dany4494 View Post
    How many bhp did the vtr badge give ?
    Sorry mate, I'll take it off for you if it offends you that much! Must be so amazing being you... All cool and what not
  18. Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2013 Hook Posts: 181 51 plate, silver 1.1 saxo
    #18
    thats fair enough for £375 quid. mine came with tsw allows which i promtly sold for a different set... made £65 profit in terms of alloys

    but anyways, ive had several answers, and the jist of what is being said is to just get the vtr engine (or vts), correct? or just buy a vtr/vts?

    although there are definitely mods to make, i shouldnt really bother with doing anything to the 1.1, save my pennies for the better engine?
  19. L-plater Joined: Feb 2013 LONDON Posts: 73 SAXO VTR 1.6 2001
    #19
    Erm....


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  20. Established Member Joined: May 2012 West Yorkshire Posts: 1806 Civic EP2
    #20
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 668vtr View Post
    Sorry mate, I'll take it off for you if it offends you that much! Must be so amazing being you... All cool and what not
    Thanks mate I am pretty cool must admit I stuck a type R badge on the civic once upon a time but was scary fast so took it off.
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