Surly they both do the same :/

1. Ouchie82 L-plater Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 70

   #1 18th December 2013, 20:53

   Hi every , okay so I'm looking to put a cold air induction kit on my saxo vtr , okay I'm on a budget an so far come up with these 2 but one says it gives more power mid to hi range
   
   Look at this on eBay:
   
   CITROEN SAXO 1.4 1.6 VTS VTR VTL CARBON FIBRE LOOK COLD AIR INDUCTION FILTER KIT
   
   http://bit.ly/JIOgi0
   
   And this one says power low to mid range
   
   Look at this on eBay:
   
   99-04 CITROEN SAXO VTR / 1.4L / 1.6L AIR INDUCTION KIT
   
   http://bit.ly/JD8ucj
   
   Okay I know one has a heat shield but surly they both do exactly the same thing ?
   
   Cheers
2. Mickswan Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2013 Jarrow Posts: 4022 2003 Icelandic Grey 16v VTR 1991 Daihatsu GTti

   #2 18th December 2013, 20:57

   Put a K&N panel filter in the airbox, better than sucking in all the hot engine bay air.

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3. user_64763 Established Member Joined: Jun 2013 York Posts: 2134 Citroen Saxo VTR (2001)

   #3 18th December 2013, 21:06

   I had a closed induction kit on my car and it struggled to start and when flooring from low revs it sort of spluttered too until the revs picked up. I put an open induction kit on and its fine now!
4. Ouchie82 L-plater Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 70

   #4 18th December 2013, 21:25

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Mickswan Put a K&N panel filter in the airbox, better than sucking in all the hot engine bay air.

   
   Like this one ?
   
   Look at this on eBay:
   
   Citroen Saxo VTR 1.6 (90bhp) PX1365 Pipercross Induction Panel Air Filter Kit
   
   http://bit.ly/1cBe8ml
5. Mickswan Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2013 Jarrow Posts: 4022 2003 Icelandic Grey 16v VTR 1991 Daihatsu GTti

   #5 18th December 2013, 21:29

   Do you have the standard air box in at the minute? If you do put one if these in
   
   http://bit.ly/1bQRj0o
6. Ouchie82 L-plater Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 70

   #6 18th December 2013, 21:35

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Mickswan Do you have the standard air box in at the minute? If you do put one if these in http://bit.ly/1bQRj0o

   
   Yes it's all Standard at the moment , so will I get the same kind of extra bhp etc from using this sort air filter instead of changing to the open cold air one ?
   
   Thanks for the info too !
7. Mickswan Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2013 Jarrow Posts: 4022 2003 Icelandic Grey 16v VTR 1991 Daihatsu GTti

   #7 18th December 2013, 22:05

   Standard air box with a good panel filter will be better than a cheap induction kit.
8. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

   #8 18th December 2013, 22:06

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Ouchie82 Yes it's all Standard at the moment , so will I get the same kind of extra bhp etc from using this sort air filter instead of changing to the open cold air one ? Thanks for the info too !

   The open filters (like cone filters etc) generally do more harm than good. They sound loud when you nail it, but take hot air from the engine compartment rather than use cold air from the standard airbox.
9. Ouchie82 L-plater Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 70

   #9 18th December 2013, 22:11

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Ross The open filters (like cone filters etc) generally do more harm than good. They sound loud when you nail it, but take hot air from the engine compartment rather than use cold air from the standard airbox.

   
   So Ross your saying go for the one that goes in the air box it's self ? Will you get the better power gain out of the 2 ? I'm putting a race pipe on the car tomorrow witch as your know loses the silencer , also one of the air filters I linked on here has a heat shield , do they not work ?
10. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #10 19th December 2013, 00:45

    Yes - for best performance really you want to keep the standard airbox and fit a "performance" filter - k&n etc. that's my opinion of course but the logic is sound.
    
    The cone filters (even those with a heat shield) suck in warm air from the engine bay whereas the standard airbox is isolated from that warm air.
11. josepi1990 L-plater Joined: Feb 2013 LONDON Posts: 73 SAXO VTR 1.6 2001

    #11 19th December 2013, 06:55

    Performance wise they are right dude, green cotton or k&n panel in standard box
    
    
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12. Ouchie82 L-plater Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 70

    #12 19th December 2013, 08:44

    Okay cheers Guys for all the help !!! Another thing a I can tick of on the big list of must do's to my saxo
13. Ouchie82 L-plater Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 70

    #13 28th December 2013, 13:33

    Witch is better the pipecross filter or k&n ?
14. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #14 28th December 2013, 22:04

    Get a filter made by Green,no induction kit will see big bhp gains,you`ll be lucky to see 2 bhp at the most.
15. Dave_P Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI

    #15 28th December 2013, 22:08

    Save your hard earned £ and don't bother buying one.
16. Ouchie82 L-plater Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 70

    #16 29th December 2013, 15:40

    I'm just swapping the standard air filter for a k an n filter , still keeping the air box etc , there only £30 give or take

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17. m4tt274 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2011 Doncaster Posts: 2627 Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others

    #17 29th December 2013, 16:04

    ignore performance, open cone for noise, standard box for no noise.
    there will be no noticeable difference between any through your arse.