Machine polisher etc

1. Chris_O Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Kent Posts: 4175 RB25'd s14a + 2008 MWB Transit

   #1 19th March 2014, 22:05

   I've got a blue transit and I can imagine it coming up a treat with a nice detail and machine polish. It's an ex british gas van so you can see vague outline of the old sign writing at certain angles. Quite a few scratches/ swirl marks also.
   
   Can someone recommend me a fairly mid range but decent quality machine polisher? What else do I need? pads/mops? Cutting compound? Polish? I'm sure at first it would have to be quite aggressive.
   
   I've been in to keeping my vehicles clean and hand polishing/ sealing/ waxing etc, but have no knowledge on machines at all.
   
   Ideally would like to spend around a ton on everything.
   
   Ta
2. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

   #2 19th March 2014, 22:40

   I have a DAS6, its been great to work with giving great results in a fairly decent time.
   
   However, rotary ftw. Much quicker and youd need to be a spastic to strike through the paint.
3. Chris_O Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Kent Posts: 4175 RB25'd s14a + 2008 MWB Transit

   #3 19th March 2014, 22:57

   http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-Polish...item41761c5b73
   
   What about this? Or likely to be as much use as a one legged man in an arse kicking contest?
4. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

   #4 19th March 2014, 23:29

   The machine seems like it might be not bad, but the pads and polish might be hefty as fuck :-s
5. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

   #5 19th March 2014, 23:33

   DA6 pr0 lad here too. You'd have to be a complete retard to mess up the paint up.
6. user_66744 L-plater Joined: Feb 2014 Preston Posts: 61 mk1 vts

   #6 19th March 2014, 23:56

   i got something similar to that one on the ebay link and its fine to me but as said the pads and polish you get with it is shit i have spent money getting the right stuff and tbh you can get a good deal on a decent polisher with decent pads and polish rather then get a cheap thing and have to spend money to get the right polish…
7. Chris_O Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Kent Posts: 4175 RB25'd s14a + 2008 MWB Transit

   #7 20th March 2014, 08:44

   Just looking on clean your car. Is there a huge amount of different between the das 6 and the pro?
8. Brendanp Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 649

   #8 20th March 2014, 16:05

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Chris_O Just looking on clean your car. Is there a huge amount of different between the das 6 and the pro?

   Length of the cable was the main reason I wish I got the pro instead of the cheaper one
9. SaxoKid95 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2013 London Posts: 171 Citroen Saxo 1.1 Desire

   #9 23rd March 2014, 08:28

   DAS6 Pro all the way, but sadly my brother snapped the head off it :'( and now gotta get another one and only had it 5 months.
10. Chris_O Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Kent Posts: 4175 RB25'd s14a + 2008 MWB Transit

    #10 23rd March 2014, 10:07

    http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polish.../prod_675.html
    
    
    Think I will go for this
11. user_59318 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2012 Reading Posts: 804 Icelandic Furio

    #11 23rd March 2014, 10:09

    A mate of mine uses the silverline one from toolstation, it's a rotary and only £41. I know he upgraded all his pads but he done a really good job on his transporter with it. Might be worth considering if just occasional use?
12. Chris_O Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Kent Posts: 4175 RB25'd s14a + 2008 MWB Transit

    #12 23rd March 2014, 10:12

    I think I will go for das6 to be honest, I'm hoping it will be a bit more than occasional use once i get used to it etc
13. user_59318 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2012 Reading Posts: 804 Icelandic Furio

    #13 23rd March 2014, 10:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Chris_O I think I will go for das6 to be honest, I'm hoping it will be a bit more than occasional use once i get used to it etc

    
    Fair shout mate, I myself will be going for a das 6 pro sometime this year. Heard nothing but good reviews about the das6 and das6 pro.
14. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

    #14 23rd March 2014, 10:37

    Jtf have some in at the moment for £15, my mate got one under my advise before spending quite a bit on one and he hated it. You need the patience of a saint and it gets very boring quick!!
15. Chris_O Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Kent Posts: 4175 RB25'd s14a + 2008 MWB Transit

    #15 23rd March 2014, 11:47

    So you're saying the cheap rotarys are wank?
16. SaxoKid95 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2013 London Posts: 171 Citroen Saxo 1.1 Desire

    #16 23rd March 2014, 12:15

    I would recommend getting the Scholl Concepts Purple, Blue and Orange pads.
17. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

    #17 27th March 2014, 09:12

    To begin with, I would get onto the detailingworld forum and read some of the guides on there. Then I would look at as many youtube videos as you can before even thinking about buying one.
    
    People think they can just buy the kit and start doing it, which is likely going to lead to a shit job or ruining the paint work.
    
    If you are going to invest, take the time to learn how its done properly and just get a rotary. People buy a DA when they want it to be easy and the results are generally not as good.
18. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

    #18 27th March 2014, 10:41

    I think as long as you read up on it and use decent stuff, theres no reason a DA cant produce good results in a short time frame. This is a pic of when I did the mrs 106, using a DAS6 and Menzerna pads and polish, still had to go to a finishing polish too. Took little time considering the nick of the paint after her brother washed the whole car with a bug sponge - one of those things that just looks like a big brillo pad.
    
    
19. D4MJT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Morpeth Posts: 2539 BMW 116d Regional Toner Sales Edition

    #19 27th March 2014, 10:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Prickle DA6 pr0 lad here too. You'd have to be a complete retard to mess up the paint up.

    Haven't you had a lot of paintwork done of late?
    
    
    
    
    Just messing potato protector x
20. MuZiZZle Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2011 Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 7779 Phase 2 VTS , E61 M5

    #20 27th March 2014, 11:20

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gabbastard I think as long as you read up on it and use decent stuff, theres no reason a DA cant produce good results in a short time frame. This is a pic of when I did the mrs 106, using a DAS6 and Menzerna pads and polish, still had to go to a finishing polish too. Took little time considering the nick of the paint after her brother washed the whole car with a bug sponge - one of those things that just looks like a big brillo pad.

    is that the before pic?
21. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #21 27th March 2014, 11:33

    Da results can be good - but you do ironically need more effort than with a rotary.
    
    
    
    Single pass with a g220:
    
22. user_55186 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2011 Wirral Posts: 280 desire

    #22 27th March 2014, 12:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MuZiZZle is that the before pic?

    50/50 shot, right hand side has been polished, left hand side still has swirls.
23. MuZiZZle Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2011 Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 7779 Phase 2 VTS , E61 M5

    #23 27th March 2014, 13:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bosax 50/50 shot, right hand side has been polished, left hand side still has swirls.

    lol, how did I not notice, distracted by the swirlzzzz

    1 user thanked this post: Jigs2895
24. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

    #24 27th March 2014, 13:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MuZiZZle is that the before pic?

    50:50, before on the right, after on the left.
25. MuZiZZle Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2011 Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 7779 Phase 2 VTS , E61 M5

    #25 27th March 2014, 13:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gabbastard 50:50, before on the right, after on the left.

    I bet it's the other way round!
26. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #26 27th March 2014, 13:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by D4MJT Haven't you had a lot of paintwork done of late? Just messing potato protector x

    No. Just the inner wings. Lol.
    
    Its worth it. All i done was watched a couple of vids, made sure i used the right pad/compound and cracked on. No fucking around here.
    
    Its been about a year so in a few weeks itll be getting done again.
27. MuZiZZle Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2011 Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 7779 Phase 2 VTS , E61 M5

    #27 27th March 2014, 15:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Prickle No. Just the inner wings. Lol. Its worth it. All i done was watched a couple of vids, made sure i used the right pad/compound and cracked on. No fucking around here. Its been about a year so in a few weeks itll be getting done again.

    you're so bad at it you made a door change colour!
28. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #28 27th March 2014, 15:27

    You're good at fishing arn't cha?
    
    Lol, nout to do with me that.
29. Chris_O Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Kent Posts: 4175 RB25'd s14a + 2008 MWB Transit

    #29 12th April 2014, 20:31

    Right so in the end I just bought a cheap silverline rotary from toolstation for £40
    
    http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Powe.../sd3309/p84532
    
    
    
    Now just need some ideas on what polish and pads to go for. I've always liked menzerna for hand polishing so how about this:
    
    
    http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polish.../prod_221.html
    
    http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polish.../prod_228.html
    
    http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polish.../prod_223.html
    
    And then these pads:
    
    http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/machin...prod_1041.html
    
    http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/machin...prod_1042.html
    
    http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/machin...prod_1043.html
    
    
    Or has any one got any other suggestions?
30. PastyVTR Regular Poster Joined: May 2012 Torbay Posts: 461 VTS

    #30 28th April 2014, 21:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gabbastard I think as long as you read up on it and use decent stuff, theres no reason a DA cant produce good results in a short time frame. This is a pic of when I did the mrs 106, using a DAS6 and Menzerna pads and polish, still had to go to a finishing polish too. Took little time considering the nick of the paint after her brother washed the whole car with a bug sponge - one of those things that just looks like a big brillo pad.

    That looks awesome, inspired me to got for one i think. Am I right in thinking you go over three times using the three different pads and polishes? Thanks
31. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

    #31 28th April 2014, 22:06

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PastyVTR That looks awesome, inspired me to got for one i think. Am I right in thinking you go over three times using the three different pads and polishes? Thanks

    That was one go with a medium pad and PO203S Menzerna polish once Id done that, switched to a softer pad and polish. Waxed it and the whole car looked like the right half of the picture.
32. PastyVTR Regular Poster Joined: May 2012 Torbay Posts: 461 VTS

    #32 29th April 2014, 09:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gabbastard That was one go with a medium pad and PO203S Menzerna polish once Id done that, switched to a softer pad and polish. Waxed it and the whole car looked like the right half of the picture.

    Ah thanks, it does look great. Think i'm gonna go for this : http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/machin.../prod_522.html, which one of these is your polish closest to ? Or shall i use them all in turn. Thanks
33. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

    #33 29th April 2014, 10:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PastyVTR Ah thanks, it does look great. Think i'm gonna go for this : http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/machin.../prod_522.html, which one of these is your polish closest to ? Or shall i use them all in turn. Thanks

    They rebranded their products recently, I think the PF2300 is nearest to Po203s
34. PastyVTR Regular Poster Joined: May 2012 Torbay Posts: 461 VTS

    #34 29th April 2014, 11:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gabbastard They rebranded their products recently, I think the PF2300 is nearest to Po203s

    Ah ok, thanks for the help
35. PastyVTR Regular Poster Joined: May 2012 Torbay Posts: 461 VTS

    #35 9th May 2014, 21:10

    http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/foru...ad.php?t=63859
    
    A very in-depth guide here if anyone is interested. Good for beginners.
36. Custard1 L-plater Joined: Jun 2014 Hambledon Posts: 44 3dr dark blue VTR

    #36 30th June 2014, 18:22

    If your new to machine polishing a das6 with suit you as it will take longer to do any real damage to the paint