Best turbo for saxo vts.

1. Laurynas Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2013 Iceland Posts: 277 Citroën Saxo VTS (build in progress.)

   #1 7th April 2014, 16:23

   Hi, as the title says whats the best turbo for a std citroen saxo vts 1.6 16v tu5j4.
   
   I want a turbo that would spool fast and would good for the std engine. Later i will change to low com pistons and ect. But for now i would like to have a turbo and i am planing to do most of the work myself. Best if you know a good turbo from some other car i could find a good one in the scrapyards
   
   Thank you.
   Laurynas
2. Chris_O Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Kent Posts: 4175 RB25'd s14a + 2008 MWB Transit

   #2 7th April 2014, 16:54

   Gt17. Good basic turbo for low boost. Iirc they are off a Saab

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3. Laurynas Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2013 Iceland Posts: 277 Citroën Saxo VTS (build in progress.)

   #3 7th April 2014, 16:56

   Ok thank you for telling i will wait for more people opinions but will check this turbo maybe will buy new.
   Btw is the td04 any good for a saxo? And the gt1752S is the correct model? And what kind of boost i can run on these turbos?
   
   Thank you.
   Laurynas
4. luthor1 Established Member Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 1802

   #4 7th April 2014, 19:42

   GT1752 is the model to look out for, 200bhp no drama, spools from 2,000ish rpm and it's strong and light and perfect for that level!
5. Laurynas Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2013 Iceland Posts: 277 Citroën Saxo VTS (build in progress.)

   #5 7th April 2014, 21:57

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by luthor1 GT1752 is the model to look out for, 200bhp no drama, spools from 2,000ish rpm and it's strong and light and perfect for that level!

   Very good to hear that i am think of it. Btw can i push 200hp from std engine? And i am thinking can i put cat cams 743 and turbo to have good low end power and when the turbo spools have even more? Maybe its so other cams that is better for the job. And one more can i do a hi comp engine and put a turbo on it?
6. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

   #6 8th April 2014, 09:04

   Standard cams will be better than 743's for low engine rpm power. Stay with standard engine, standard compression and you will be fine for 200hp if mapped correctly.
   
   I wouldn't recommend high-comp and turbo - will need very careful setup.

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7. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

   #7 10th April 2014, 08:35

   what you have asked and what you intend to do later are contradictory
   your gt17 or silva turbo t2 will be fine for std engine with boost regulated --but you are not putting forged internals in to run same power ,so then the turbo will be wrong --do some more thinking and decide where you want ot go eventually and then you won,t be changin turbo,s and isntallations -
8. user_67281 L-plater Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 43 Saxo westcoast mk1/ mk6.5 fiesta/subara classic /s

   #8 14th April 2014, 11:36

   hi there im new to all this, if your fitting a turbo str8 on to a std vts engine< how much are you looking at spending ?
9. Chris_O Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Kent Posts: 4175 RB25'd s14a + 2008 MWB Transit

   #9 14th April 2014, 13:19

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Deano24 hi there im new to all this, if your fitting a turbo str8 on to a std vts engine< how much are you looking at spending ?

   How longs a piece of string? Will you be doing the work yourself? Do you want to go standalone or 5th injector? Etc
   
   For a fairly decent budget setup it would probably end up around £2000 if you did the bulk of it yourself. That would include a predator standalone courtesy of Luthor ^^^
10. PastyVTR Regular Poster Joined: May 2012 Torbay Posts: 461 VTS

    #10 14th April 2014, 13:57

    If you were looking to get it done for you how much would it be ish ( including labour) ? Around the 200bhp mark
11. Thunderz Regular Poster Joined: May 2009 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 253 Citroen Saxo VTS Throttle Bodied :) Citroen C2

    #11 15th April 2014, 11:35

    I might take my throttle bodies off, sell them and go down this road next...
    165bhp aint enough lol
12. jon08 Newbie Joined: Apr 2014 FRANCE Posts: 26 Citroën Saxo VTS 1.6L 16v

    #12 15th April 2014, 11:52

    Yes but don't compare 165bhp atmo with 165bhp turbo: the torque isn't the same

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13. Thunderz Regular Poster Joined: May 2009 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 253 Citroen Saxo VTS Throttle Bodied :) Citroen C2

    #13 15th April 2014, 12:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jon08 Yes but don't compare 165bhp atmo with 165bhp turbo: the torque isn't the same

    Thats what Im after, more torque at the lower rev range.
    The way mine is set up to get that figure NA all the power is after 4000rpm...
14. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

    #14 15th April 2014, 15:04

    just remember more torque means more wheelspin and more load on transmission =clutch
    so don,t be suprised if the clutch complains

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15. jon08 Newbie Joined: Apr 2014 FRANCE Posts: 26 Citroën Saxo VTS 1.6L 16v

    #15 15th April 2014, 15:35

    And if drive shaft break or gearbox haha
16. DaCrazyOne Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2013 Space Posts: 873 JuliustoogyJD

    #16 15th April 2014, 23:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by axsaxoman just remember more torque means more wheelspin and more load on transmission =clutch so don,t be suprised if the clutch complains

    
    
    I have too much torque on my VTS and no turbo and spins for the fun of it in 1st and 2nd lol Was thinking to turbo mine however id need to get torque sorted out first.
17. Thunderz Regular Poster Joined: May 2009 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 253 Citroen Saxo VTS Throttle Bodied :) Citroen C2

    #17 16th April 2014, 11:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by axsaxoman just remember more torque means more wheelspin and more load on transmission =clutch so don,t be suprised if the clutch complains

    good point
18. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

    #18 17th April 2014, 08:35

    this is why i have never been a fan of turbo,s on FWD cars --
19. Thunderz Regular Poster Joined: May 2009 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 253 Citroen Saxo VTS Throttle Bodied :) Citroen C2

    #19 17th April 2014, 10:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by axsaxoman this is why i have never been a fan of turbo,s on FWD cars --

    I wish most cars were RWD like they used to be. Would be much more fun.
    GIve me a MK2 Escort anyday lol.
20. jon08 Newbie Joined: Apr 2014 FRANCE Posts: 26 Citroën Saxo VTS 1.6L 16v

    #20 17th April 2014, 13:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by axsaxoman this is why i have never been a fan of turbo,s on FWD cars --

    There are some FWD turbo cars like the Opel Corsa GSI which is not bad!
    
    Ok, it's not bad but my Saxo 16v is also fast (my brother had a GSI, so we did a test )
    
    I think that a Saxo turbo with good clutch and tires (R888 for example) can be really fun
21. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

    #21 17th April 2014, 16:16

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by axsaxoman this is why i have never been a fan of turbo,s on FWD cars --

    That's why you see lots of supercharged FWD cars breaking nurburgring records......er...oh...