c20xe in a vtr

  1. Newbie Joined: May 2014 Posts: 7
    #1
    hi guys. i have just bought a saxo vtr, i previously owned a redtop nova and did the conversion myself. fancied a bit of a challenge . has anyone carried out this conversion at all. any guides on install and wiring etc would be a massive help. cheers mart
  2. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #2
    why would you go to the hassle and expense of fitting a prehistoric vauxhall engine to a saxo

    if you wanna start with a 2.0 NA there are muc better/more modern engines about...finding a GOOD Xe these days is rare..shitters are still 300 and rebuilt ones are nigh on a grand
  3. Newbie Joined: May 2014 Posts: 7
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    why would you go to the hassle and expense of fitting a prehistoric vauxhall engine to a saxo

    if you wanna start with a 2.0 NA there are muc better/more modern engines about...finding a GOOD Xe these days is rare..shitters are still 300 and rebuilt ones are nigh on a grand
    i already have a fully re built engine in perfect condition . just wondered how difficult it is to implant into a saxo . the power in my nova was awesome just think if be fun to try this route. prehistoric maybe but a very good engine all the same thank you.. rated at 170bhp currently.
  4. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
    #4
    It's a good engine but there's going to be a lot of expensive custom fabrication work to fit it which could be spent on tuning a 16v TU engine


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  5. Newbie Joined: May 2014 Posts: 7
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gandi699 View Post
    It's a good engine but there's going to be a lot of expensive custom fabrication work to fit it which could be spent on tuning a 16v TU engine


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    TU engine?
    im not too bothered about the mechanical side of the conversion but the wiring, loom and ecu sound a bit tricky??
  6. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
    #6
    Yeah that's the type of engine fitted to saxos


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  7. Newbie Joined: May 2014 Posts: 7
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gandi699 View Post
    Yeah that's the type of engine fitted to saxos


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    ahh ok sorry lol. i guess im just gonna have to give it a go and see. saxo valver all the way.. wish me luck
  8. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.
    #8
    C20 or Z20 XE shouldn't be too bad to fit as they sit quite upright with the exhaust on the front like the TU, you need to measure up to see if it'll fit.

    weight is another consideration, thought he TU5J4 is quite a heavy anchor anyway, a 2.0 EW will weigh about the same!
  9. Newbie Joined: May 2014 Posts: 7
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by welshpug View Post
    C20 or Z20 XE shouldn't be too bad to fit as they sit quite upright with the exhaust on the front like the TU, you need to measure up to see if it'll fit.

    weight is another consideration, thought he TU5J4 is quite a heavy anchor anyway, a 2.0 EW will weigh about the same!
    its the c20xe calibra version. i like a challenge
  10. Newbie Joined: May 2014 Posts: 7
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mart25 View Post
    its the c20xe calibra version. i like a challenge
    what about ecu and wiring mating together.. issues anyone please??
  11. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
    #11
    You'll be hard pressed to find anyone who can give info like that to be fair


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  12. Newbie Joined: May 2014 Posts: 7
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gandi699 View Post
    You'll be hard pressed to find anyone who can give info like that to be fair


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    no worries thought it be a tall order.. i'll figure it out. . cheers people.
  13. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2011 huddersfield Posts: 2635 ph3'd c2 gt
    #13
    if you do end up doing it, be sure to post up a progress thread dude
    will be an interesting read!
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  14. Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 452
    #14
    To be honest if you wanna do it and you have to ask how id not bother. You could tune a vts engine to that power probably cheaper than getting someone to do that work
  15. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390
    #15
    As said, most of them will be tired now: there were a few redtop corsas and a nova when I went to Crail a couple years back, my standard VTS engined AX was tearing them a new one all day.

    Given that there are off the shelf BE conversion parts, itd be easier to do that, though if it was up to me Id be using an EW from a 206 180 or similar.
  16. L-plater Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 68 C2 GT Track Car And A C2 GT Daily
    #16
    I'm not a fan of Other marque engines being fitted.... Just a weird thing I have like its wrong to fit an XE to a MK1 escort! It's just me..
    Personally the TU engine Is very tuneable and less hassle or Maybe go for the all alloy EW engine as above and start with 180 bhp and very light and with some of the Be stuff about perhaps less hassle?