diesel rad conversion

  1. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #1
    anyone got any links and info to the diesel rad or any rad with remote header conversion

    mainly need the info of where the pipes in the circuit go and if you need the plastic fitting from the back of the block where the rad pipes go

    i know one return line comes straight from the rad to the top of the header... one looks as though it goes to the stat housing..the main return looks like it goes to the rear suggesting id need the plastic splitter from the diesel block for the extra pipe?

    mucho appreciation
  2. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #2
    I cant really remember much how mine is but ive got a small pipe going to top of the radiator on o/s. Other going to the rear into a Y piece into original hose that has the bleed valve on.

    Hope this helps lol
  3. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #3
    just been talking to gav.. way he does it the lower header tank return should be T'd into the lower rad hose to put the water back into the circuit and the over flow from the top of the rad goes back to the top of the header..so that sounds like all i should need and is alot easier then replacing the pipe of the back of the block!

    cheers matey
  4. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #4
    ill whack some pics in here to help others when i get 5 as i couldnt find anything on here about it

    most stuff on here is archived these days...takes the piss looking for stuff haha
  5. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #5
    Ye mines into the smaller pipe from the back of the block. Obv the plastic pipe on the block both hoses go into same hole. I got my header tanlk, pipes and rad from danny so just got it setup same as he had.
  6. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #6
    i think ill probs use that pipe tbh as itll be te same diameter as the one on the header tank

    just need to get a header tank now lol

    and a new rad... migt aswel buy a diesel 106 for spares tbh
  7. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390
    #7
    I just bunged the diesel rad in my AX, and ran a pipe from the upper bleed outlet to a Ford Ka header tank. Ran fine for lots of miles and with hard driving, no issues.
  8. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #8
    cheers mate..im seeing what ive got in the unit i think ive got a c2 GT one. be a piece of piss now i know i dont need the bit off the diesel block

    just ordered a new diesel rad as the one i got from the scrappy to mock stuff up is a piece of shit
  9. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390
    #9
    I worried initially about having the extra piping and shit but have seen other cars run an almost identical setup to the way I had mine - 207 thp for one - and its just an expansion/bleed point to be honest.
  10. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gabbastard View Post
    I worried initially about having the extra piping and shit but have seen other cars run an almost identical setup to the way I had mine - 207 thp for one - and its just an expansion/bleed point to be honest.
    basically it. im alot happier now i know itll work the way i was hoping it would. so i can just use any header i find now and save a few ££
  11. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390
    #11
    Should do dude, the core was pretty much identical to a VTS rad, just with the header/neck chopped off. Fuck it, itll be alreet!
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  12. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #12
    yeah theyre not much diff like

    just bought one of these..same type as the late vtr vts ones fitted from 02 onwards...with the better/stronger fins and better cooling

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171171361632
  13. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390
    #13
    Good price that!
  14. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #14
    thats what i thought too
  15. Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2013 ashford Posts: 231 citreon saxo vtr 1.6
    #15
    Blackie, fancy making a guide as I'm looking into improving my cooling system etc in my new build. Cheers
  16. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #16
    theres no real improvement mate tbh...if you havent already got one..go for the later "ordinez" radiator found on the 02 on vtr or vts

    im just fitting as ive no choice..the xsi bay is tiny and the saxo rad just wont fit with the turbo bits as the header neck is in the way

    but ill whack a guide up none the less
  17. Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2013 ashford Posts: 231 citreon saxo vtr 1.6
    #17
    Oh okay, fair play and I don't have a rad ATM as just building a spare shell I have for a little track fun. What rad would you suggest? Don't mind spending a fair amount upto 100 is doable, if you got time I have a thread about an engine issue if you could give me some feedback I'd appreciate it.
  18. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #18
    whats the spec of the engine? a decent new oe on like i mentioned above should be fine for most specs.
  19. Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2013 ashford Posts: 231 citreon saxo vtr 1.6
    #19
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    whats the spec of the engine? a decent new oe on like i mentioned above should be fine for most specs.
    Well I'm now going 16v but there will be cams etc added in the near future!
  20. Established Member Joined: Mar 2010 Basildon, Essex Posts: 1042 Citroen AX VTS
    #20


    How I did mine
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  21. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #21
    a new OE should be fine then dean


    cheers gaz. easy as pie
  22. Established Member Joined: Mar 2010 Basildon, Essex Posts: 1042 Citroen AX VTS
    #22
    Ah actually, now I remember, that isn't how I did it in the end. That T piece position meant it wouldn't bleed properly. I ended up sacking the whole thing off but only because the AX bay is so small. Got a little one up by the servo in the end which T'd into the pipe going to the thermostat.
  23. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #23
    yeah im planning on using a c2 one and sticking it near the servo.. see wheres best to T into from that
  24. Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320
    #24
    My header feeds in to the lower hose between rad and water pump
    But its easyer on mine as i use 206 coolant hoses so my lower hose comes over the gearbox
  25. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #25
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tweeqd View Post
    My header feeds in to the lower hose between rad and water pump
    But its easyer on mine as i use 206 coolant hoses so my lower hose comes over the gearbox
    funnily enough ive got a 206 1.1 ive been looking at! lol

    ive just been up jonsons and picked up a small GM header tank so im gonna see where i can mount that around the servo area and pick the best possible route to sort it out

    ill bang some pics up when its done
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  26. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.
    #26
    I found a rad with the same size core as the diesel but had integrated header tank like most of the petrol engines, direct fit to a gti.

    Saves faffing with the pipework.
  27. Established Member Joined: Mar 2010 Basildon, Essex Posts: 1042 Citroen AX VTS
    #27
    If you're putting it near the servo then you can T into the pipe that goes from the thermostat housing round to the heater matrix
  28. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #28
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by welshpug View Post
    I found a rad with the same size core as the diesel but had integrated header tank like most of the petrol engines, direct fit to a gti.

    Saves faffing with the pipework.
    theres literally no room for the rad on the kit im running mate..ive had to put it right forward and right up... the over flow pipe is gonna have to be drilled into the side of the inner morrette so the pipe can fit on

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gareth_R View Post
    If you're putting it near the servo then you can T into the pipe that goes from the thermostat housing round to the heater matrix
    ill whack some pipcs up the morra.. ive got a corsa B one i believe and got the lower pipe that matches..its gonna run the pipe under the servo behind the brake lines and straight to the rear hose with the bleed cap on.. under the matrix hose theres another run off with a rubber plug blocking it (never seen one of these ones before so there must be loads diff ones as ive seen a few different!) so its worked out pretty fucking well tbh..dare i say it may even look OE
  29. Established Member Joined: Mar 2010 Basildon, Essex Posts: 1042 Citroen AX VTS
    #29
    Nice. Love it when you get a mod looking OE. I was gutted when I couldnt get the diesel header tank to bleed cos it looked great.
  30. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #30
    what was it doing like? just keep over heating?
  31. Established Member Joined: Mar 2010 Basildon, Essex Posts: 1042 Citroen AX VTS
    #31
    No the header tank was just filling up and coolant wasn't making its way into the system. Took about an hour to get a litre in there
  32. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #32
    strange that like theyre the normal choice for ppl
  33. Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320
    #33
    If you had opened the bleeders g it would of worked
  34. Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.
    #34
    Get some pics up andy.

    My derv rad (gmc alloy header tank for looks) was good for 300hp. No issues even when blasting then traffic etc.
  35. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge
    #35
    My 1.5d rad is so good, I've been driving with no rad fan for over 2 years and never had it overheat. Even sitting in traffic for 25 mins.

    Fitted the fan today, for the sake of OEM-ness.
  36. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #36
    in and fitted..

    the pipe from the back of block had an extra tak off with a plug in it..so i pulled the plug out and drilled the hole bigger as was only fit for a small pipe... with some struggle the corsa (i believe) pipe forced over after chopping it down to size




    bracket made for the header to fit infront of the servo.. the pipe has a nice curve to go round the back of the brake pipes



  37. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 107
    #37
    Looks nice, How long away do you think you will need the injectors for if you havent got a set yet?
  38. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
    #38
    I like this, awesome work so far as always


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  39. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #39
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DeekB View Post
    Looks nice, How long away do you think you will need the injectors for if you havent got a set yet?
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gandi699 View Post
    I like this, awesome work so far as always


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    cheers lads, deek im not sure what you mean by that..but ive got a set of injectors getting posted in the morning first class so long as the seller keeps to his word
  40. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 107
    #40
    was meaning if you didnt have a set how long could you wait for me to sell you mines, but its cool you have a set, no worries man!