PAS Problem please help!

  1. Newbie Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 17
    #1
    Hi all im new to this forum and owning a saxo, its not going great atm. i have a 2000 1.1 saxo desire, picked it up fri morning breaks went in the evening so £170 later thats sorted. Now my new problem is i thought it didnt have PAS but after checking oil levels i notice the reservoir at the front where the fluid goes in, its topped up at the right level. So it turns out i do have PAS but it doesnt work! have searched google and the only answers i can find is where the heaters and demisters dont work aswell but on my saxo it does. Have checked all fuses in the car and under the bonnet and they all seem ok, thanks in advance for any help
  2. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2013 Jarrow Posts: 4022 2003 Icelandic Grey 16v VTR 1991 Daihatsu GTti
    #2
    Pas pump failure is a common fault. If your relays and fuses are fine you want to change the pump.
  3. Newbie Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 17
    #3
    All fuses are fine, what's the location of the relays and how do I test them? Thanks
  4. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.
    #4
    PAS relay is grey & tucked in just under the battery.
  5. Newbie Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 17
    #5
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stevo67 View Post
    PAS relay is grey & tucked in just under the battery.
    Cheers Steve, do I need to remove the battery to look at it? How do I test it? Thanks
  6. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.
    #6
    No mate just pulls out,don't know how to test it but won't hurt to clean up the connections with emery cloth.Then put back together.
  7. Newbie Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 17
    #7
    Found it pulled it out and it looks fine all the connectors are really clean no sign of rust in them or anything. Anyone know how to test it?
  8. Newbie Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 17
    #8
    What would you advise next? Just go for it and change the pump?
  9. Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2014 Blackburn, Lancashire Posts: 596 2002 Citroen Saxo desire 2001 Volvo V40 1.9D
    #9
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dconn View Post
    What would you advise next? Just go for it and change the pump?
    Give the pump a loving tap with a breaker bar or something similar, firm tap.
  10. Newbie Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 17
    #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by aldred309uk View Post
    Give the pump a loving tap with a breaker bar or something similar, firm tap.
    Iv tapped it with the hammer but didn't know if I was doing it hard enough, guess there's no harm in hitting It hard if it needs replacing anyway
  11. Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2014 Blackburn, Lancashire Posts: 596 2002 Citroen Saxo desire 2001 Volvo V40 1.9D
    #11
    What's the worst that could happen, you break it?
  12. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge
    #12
    Did you buy privately?

    If you bought from a used car dealership take it back and complain. they HAVE to fix it.

    some legalities in there, but I'm not sure how it works. up to 3 months from date of purchase.
  13. Newbie Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 17
    #13
    I bought it privately,... So iv tapped the pas pump with a hammer and also turned the steering wheel from side side violently lol when I done this it squirted out the top of the pas reservoir as I had the lid off. Not sure if that helps to show it's not blocked? If anyone is in or near Bristol and could take a look I would be very great full
  14. Newbie Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 17
    #14
    Went round a roundabout earlier and the power steering has just kicked in?
  15. Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 west mids (dudley) Posts: 1201 cammed 106 flatty
    #15
    I had the exact same problem as you.

    Basically, my demister failed, then my heaters a week later, followed by my PAS a few days later. No idea why they went in this order but they did.

    Anyway i came across this guide and it worked for me.
  16. Newbie Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 17
    #16
    It's kind of not the same problem lol, my heaters and demisters work fine
  17. Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2014 Blackburn, Lancashire Posts: 596 2002 Citroen Saxo desire 2001 Volvo V40 1.9D
    #17
    Sounds like the pump, all that basing freed it up. Not a permanent fix but you now know it's the pump!
  18. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.
    #18
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dconn View Post
    Went round a roundabout earlier and the power steering has just kicked in?
    New pump needed then mate.
  19. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD
    #19
    is your battery strapped down properly? had this issue with it kicking in and turned out a wire from the battery to the fusebox had worked loose and the tray was knackered, so the slight sliding around made and lost connection. the bizzare thing is only the RAD fan and the PAS stopped working, everything else worked!
  20. Newbie Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 17
    #20
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by chinkostu View Post
    is your battery strapped down properly? had this issue with it kicking in and turned out a wire from the battery to the fusebox had worked loose and the tray was knackered, so the slight sliding around made and lost connection. the bizzare thing is only the RAD fan and the PAS stopped working, everything else worked!
    Funny you should mention that, the battery wasn't bolted down, but Sunday I fitted it properly. Rad fan kicks in fine no probs so maybe it was a loose connection can you remember what cable it was?
  21. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2007 North-east - Washington Posts: 7311 Clio 182, Fireblade GSX-R 750
    #21
    I had this problem it turned out to be the connection to the relay. Even tho everything looked fine i rewired it without the gray block thingy with a new relay and it was fine