Early S2 twin chassis plug 16v conversion - plug and play?

  1. Newbie Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 16
    #1
    Hi all - I have a 1.1 1997 S2 106 that I plan on 16v'ing - have already bought the engine etc. My 106 has the early S2 small twin plug engine loom (one black and one gray plug). By the grace of god, the engine I have bought (see pic below) has the same loom! The male side of my current loom has all 23 pins and the female engine side (being a 1.1 XN) has some of the pins un-used - see below again. What I would like to know is: will my 16v engine and loom be a simple plug and play job with no splicing? The gray chassis plug is not even used at the min (according to info on here it is the oil level and gauge - which my 16v loom has). My reasoning is backed up be there being a 16v twin plug loom for sale at the moment on ebay that looks exactly the same as the current loom in my car! (again see below.) Any help would be great!

    My 16v engine (you can see the twin black and gray loom plugs circled

    $_57 by victorkristiansen, on Flickr

    My current two chassis plugs (black and gray)

    IMG357 by victorkristiansen, on Flickr

    IMG359 by victorkristiansen, on Flickr

    My current engine loom plug (single black, gray plug is unused with current engine - see missing pins, which I assume are for GTI applications)

    IMG352 by victorkristiansen, on Flickr

    The GTI loom currently on the Bay that looks to be exactly the same as my currently installed one!

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peugeot-10...item3ce8a4f604

    Hopefully I will be able to just plug the engine in and go!
  2. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire
    #2
    That's all good to go for plug and play mate you don't need any splicing for that.
  3. Newbie Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 16
    #3
    Awesome, just what I wanted to hear! Should have the conversion done in a day then. Out of interest, will my keypad immobilizer still work?
  4. Newbie Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 16
    #4
    Also will GTI clocks fit straight into my current loom and work? Currently have the poverty spec clocks with no aux gauges and a time clock where the tacho would be in a GTI. Thanks!
  5. Established Member Joined: Jun 2013 York Posts: 2134 Citroen Saxo VTR (2001)
    #5
    Out of interest, how much did that engine cost?! That Adam wiareck guy had it on eBay for like £600. He hasn't a clue what he's on about either

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  6. Newbie Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 16
    #6
    Did a deal for the GTI rear beam he has and the engine, box, mapped ECU, loom, shafts and all the other little bits to do the conversion for £600 - beam looks a good one and there is proof that the engine is cammed and making 147bhp so I was happy paying that - my 106 was free so that is all the conversion stands me at
  7. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire
    #7
    Keypad wont work, you need to make sure you disconnect the immobiliser box inside the car before plugging the new ECU in or you will lock it unless its had the pins removed.

    Clocks should plug straight in too.
  8. Newbie Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 16
    #8
    Lovely stuff - out of interest, in twin plug S2's, is the wiring loom the same in a GTI as it is in the 1.1? Just lots of un-used plugs and wires in the 1.1?
  9. Newbie Joined: Jan 2021 Posts: 7 Saxo 1.1 SX '97
    #9
    How could you crack open that bloody thing and remove from the metal bracket?
  10. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2004 Denny United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 666 Ford focus 2.0 Saxo VTS
    #10
    they unscrew, bracket is welded to the chassis leg
  11. Newbie Joined: Jan 2021 Posts: 7 Saxo 1.1 SX '97
    #11
    Hey Furioman,

    Thanks for the info. Mine it might got stuck, cause I've tried to twist it but I couldn't free up. I thought that I have to do sumtin to the crown like plastic ring with a white line on it.
    So just keep trying twist the plug? I want to spray the chassis and that bracket, but first I have to clean it from dirt and rust.
  12. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390
    #12
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Fittipaldi View Post
    Hey Furioman,

    Thanks for the info. Mine it might got stuck, cause I've tried to twist it but I couldn't free up. I thought that I have to do sumtin to the crown like plastic ring with a white line on it.
    So just keep trying twist the plug? I want to spray the chassis and that bracket, but first I have to clean it from dirt and rust.
    twist harder. its just a locking threaded collar. Unscrewing it will drive the two halves apart but if theyve never been apart they can be sticky
  13. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390
    #13
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jbrady72 View Post
    Out of interest, how much did that engine cost?! That Adam wiareck guy had it on eBay for like £600. He hasn't a clue what he's on about either
    lol hes got some reputation
  14. Newbie Joined: Jan 2021 Posts: 7 Saxo 1.1 SX '97
    #14
    Hey guys,
    Thanks for the help: Some penetration oil, a flat head screwdriver tapping, screwing back and forward and loadsa patience got me to unscrew the plug after half an hour of battle.
    Finally the chassis and the bracket is sanded, treated with rust converter and painted with primer. Yeah!
  15. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge
    #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gabbastard View Post
    lol hes got some reputation
    Did you reply to a 7 year old comment? noob.

    however, it shows not much has changed given what we see on facebook marketplace on a regular basis.

    I guess from that, you can be forgiven
  16. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390
    #16
    Thats the point, mnnngggghhhhh