Engine Building

  1. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Morpeth Posts: 2539 BMW 116d Regional Toner Sales Edition
    #1
    Talk to me.

    I have an engine, it's healthy enough, and works. I've never had it on a roller but it's essentially a standard TU5J4. Goes nicely.

    It's on 106k miles currently. I have full history for it, and at 90K it had a top end rebuild consisting of some valves as the belt snapped.

    It's currently on an engine stand in my garage as the cam ladders are leaking oil etc.

    I'm sorely tempted to rip it all apart and rebuilt it, quite simply, because I've never built an engine. Talk to me. What are good books to read, basic tools required etc?

    It's for my 106, I don't "NEED" it on the road, I have a daily, so I can take my time. There's nothing wrong with the engine per se, but going forwards the car is likely to be only used in anger on a track or occasionally for a weekend run out, so I'd intended on baffling the sump etc anyway.

    The idea of doing an all out build appeals as I'll get enjoyment out of building it, learning how to do it, and it's a known good starting place.

    Thoughts / advice?
  2. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2010 Little Mill, South Wales Posts: 7547 Mondeo ST TDCI Saxo VTS
    #2
    Don't bother. You will get stuck, call Muz and then fuck it up twice as bad.
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  3. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Morpeth Posts: 2539 BMW 116d Regional Toner Sales Edition
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Brettles1986 View Post
    Don't bother. You will get stuck, call Muz and then fuck it up twice as bad.
    Muz is now a redundant partner in Team Fastrape, last week I discovered I can make tea myself!
  4. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2011 huddersfield Posts: 2635 ph3'd c2 gt
    #4
    I'm sure the Haynes manual has all the information needed I would of thought, and majority of shite needed is all te basic stuff, spanners and sockets, will need those E sockets for sockets for the head bolts like and a piston ring compressor to make life abit easier getting the pistons back in, assuming you're wanting to put new rings in etc ?
  5. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2010 Little Mill, South Wales Posts: 7547 Mondeo ST TDCI Saxo VTS
    #5
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by D4MJT View Post
    Muz is now a redundant partner in Team Fastrape, last week I discovered I can make tea myself!
    It's only a matter of time before you realise tea making time could be used for cable tying things together instead and he gets reinstated.
  6. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Morpeth Posts: 2539 BMW 116d Regional Toner Sales Edition
    #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ali123 View Post
    I'm sure the Haynes manual has all the information needed I would of thought, and majority of shite needed is all te basic stuff, spanners and sockets, will need those E sockets for sockets for the head bolts like and a piston ring compressor to make life abit easier getting the pistons back in, assuming you're wanting to put new rings in etc ?
    Yeah I will be, I was thinking more along the lines of measuriser giblets for tolerances, and crank checking, and that sort of jazz?

    As you can tell I have no idea what I'm talking about, as usual.

    I've got sockets and all that sort of shit, I'm basically a professional.
  7. Established Member Joined: Jan 2008 Scotland Posts: 1764 Because racecar
    #7
    I've done a few.

    You'll need:
    Various T size sockets (female & Male )
    Big bar
    impact gun (makes life easier)
    Various sockets & spanners

    I'd start with the bottom end if I was you. Strip the sump off and get the crank out then go from there.

    Also, Haynes wins. As does autodata.
  8. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
    #8
    piston ring compressor would be useful too as would an angle gauge for torquing and maybe a dial gauge if you wish to measure some bits and bobs.
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  9. Established Member Joined: Jan 2008 Scotland Posts: 1764 Because racecar
    #9
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gandi699 View Post
    piston ring compressor would be useful too as would an angle gauge for torquing and maybe a dial gauge if you wish to measure some bits and bobs.
    Nobody mentioned rebuilding it
  10. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
    #10
    angle grinder it is then!
  11. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a
    #11
    One of the most therapeutic and enjoyable things I've ever done weirdly.
    Just being able to sit in a warm garage with some music on with a beer and methodically work your way through it all.

    You'll learn shit loads too, go for it.
  12. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Morpeth Posts: 2539 BMW 116d Regional Toner Sales Edition
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by holdawayt View Post
    One of the most therapeutic and enjoyable things I've ever done weirdly.
    Just being able to sit in a warm garage with some music on with a beer and methodically work your way through it all.

    You'll learn shit loads too, go for it.
    I like this, this is basically what I'm thinking.

    I have a desire to do it and know what it's all about, so I think it'll need done really.
  13. Established Member Joined: Jan 2008 Scotland Posts: 1764 Because racecar
    #13
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by D4MJT View Post
    I like this, this is basically what I'm thinking.

    I have a desire to do it and know what it's all about, so I think it'll need done really.
    Awaiting the "Where does this go" posts
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  14. Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Fleetwood Posts: 2244 2002 Saxo VTS
    #14
    'Why have I got all these bits left over?'
  15. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2011 huddersfield Posts: 2635 ph3'd c2 gt
    #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by johnnyg_vts View Post
    'Why have I got all these bits left over?'
    Just spares mate
  16. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2013 Jarrow Posts: 4022 2003 Icelandic Grey 16v VTR 1991 Daihatsu GTti
    #16
    Valve spring compressor
  17. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2010 Little Mill, South Wales Posts: 7547 Mondeo ST TDCI Saxo VTS
    #17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by chompy View Post
    Awaiting the "Where does this go" posts
    awaits picture of penis with the above statement.
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  18. L-plater Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 94
    #18
    I think it's a good idea. Good way to learn and if it does fuck up. It's not expensive engine to replace. Also if ure planning on tracking it it's a good time to upgrade stuff.


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  19. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.
    #19
    A good torque wrench,a compressor with an air line is also good but not essential.
  20. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2011 Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 7779 Phase 2 VTS , E61 M5
    #20
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by D4MJT View Post
    Muz is now a redundant partner in Team Fastrape, last week I discovered I can make tea myself!
    Don't tell me you've also found a local homeless person to call you a bender

    I put the "Rape" in Fastrape