Oil cooler and exhaust

1. Piers Newbie Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 5

   #1 20th February 2015, 09:28

   Ive recently purchased a VTS track toy from a friend. He used it on a few track days and mentioned that he would have looked towards getting an oil cooler based on how it performed before. Ran mint but just got pretty hot in comparison to a fiesta running a front mounted oil cooler.
   
   What are people using? Where can i get one? is anyone selling one? wheres the best mounting position? im guessing central front is the best place and maybe modify the bumper to improve air flow around it and the radiator.
   
   The car has an exhaust on it at the moment but its too loud for my liking... i used to have a 205 Gti many moons ago and PugSport were all the rage back then... is this still the case? im guessing the 106gti vs Saxo is a very similar car so cant see any immediate reason one wouldnt fit. Again, what have people found to be the best for performance and practicality? the car will only be used for weekends/track days/nurburgring trips but i dont want ringing ears when i get out!
   
   Any help would be greatly appreciated!
   Piers
2. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

   #2 20th February 2015, 11:53

   Welcome to the forum
   
   Mocal 13 row coolers (or however big you need) either in front of the radiator or behind a foglight tend to be favourite positions.
   
   If it's for a track car an oil thermostat isn't needed but if the car sees road use too then it's worth thinking about as overcooling the oil = bad.
3. Piers Newbie Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 5

   #3 20th February 2015, 14:12

   Thanks for the reply Ross... yeah it will see plenty of road use so i need something thats practical and works.
   
   Wheres the best place to get them? is a 13 row tested to be the best with the VTS? dont need an overkill but something too small is pointless.
   
   Behind a foglight hole isnt a bad shout, saves restricted air flow over the rad.
4. Dave_P Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI

   #4 20th February 2015, 16:45

   I have a lightly used Mocal 16 row cooler kit i'm selling, hillclimb use only so its done maybe 30-50 miles.
   
   £80 + post.
5. Nimix Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2015 Naestved, Denmark Posts: 281 ex-Blue 106 Rallye 1.6 '97 Black 106 Gti '99

   #5 20th February 2015, 19:59

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Dave_P I have a lightly used Mocal 16 row cooler kit i'm selling, hillclimb use only so its done maybe 30-50 miles. £80 + post.

   Is that with the temp. sandwich plate?
6. MuZiZZle Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2011 Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 7779 Phase 2 VTS , E61 M5

   #6 20th February 2015, 23:14

   Yeah deffo get the thermostatic one, or you'll have to zip tie card over it in the chilly weatherzzzz
7. Dave_P Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI

   #7 21st February 2015, 07:51

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Nimix Is that with the temp. sandwich plate?

   Sandwich plate doesn'thave a stat.
   
   I also have 2 magnex exhausts for sale, the single box system might be of interest to you...
8. Nimix Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2015 Naestved, Denmark Posts: 281 ex-Blue 106 Rallye 1.6 '97 Black 106 Gti '99

   #8 21st February 2015, 09:48

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Dave_P Sandwich plate doesn'thave a stat.

   Stat. ?
   Sorry but i dont understand that, what am i missing?
9. Dave_P Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI

   #9 21st February 2015, 09:51

   Some sandwich plates have a thermostat in them.
10. Nimix Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2015 Naestved, Denmark Posts: 281 ex-Blue 106 Rallye 1.6 '97 Black 106 Gti '99

    #10 21st February 2015, 09:58

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dave_P Some sandwich plates have a thermostat in them.

    Exactly, that was my initial question.
    Does the kit you sell have that?
11. Dave_P Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI

    #11 21st February 2015, 11:47

    No, as I stated above.
12. RATMAN_PTS Newbie Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 2

    #12 21st February 2015, 13:47

    Recently fitted a 13 row mocal cooler with thermostat in front of the water rad, and the oil was running too cool in normal driving conditions.
    
    Now it's behind the water rad and works perfect.
13. Piers Newbie Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 5

    #13 23rd February 2015, 13:44

    Thanks for the replies guys... i need to look at what exhaust it has on at the moment but i want something thats not too loud. This is extremely loud.
    Saying that, the car will have minimal use so not too sure what to do at the moment.
    i will do a bit more research on the oil coolers before i commit to anything but thank you for the offers.