Rally car, needing to lose weight

1. Inglis6 Newbie Joined: Apr 2014 Angus, Scotland Posts: 11 Saxo rally car with 1.6 VTS twin cam engine

   #1 4th February 2016, 21:13

   Hi,
   As above I have a Saxo vtr rally car and needing to lose quite a substantial amount of weight out of it as the MSA have changed the weight limits by about 150kg, any suggestions about fibreglass etc all would be appreciated as google is giving me absolutely nothing at the minute.
   Thanks,
   Greg
2. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

   #2 5th February 2016, 08:47

   will cost a lot of money to loose that much weight --cheaper to lift the power
   
   what is new limit ?
   
   whats your current weight
3. welshpug Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.

   #3 5th February 2016, 19:08

   ph1 front end is a lot lighter.
4. Inglis6 Newbie Joined: Apr 2014 Angus, Scotland Posts: 11 Saxo rally car with 1.6 VTS twin cam engine

   #4 6th February 2016, 13:31

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by axsaxoman will cost a lot of money to loose that much weight --cheaper to lift the power what is new limit ? whats your current weight

   Hi,
   Current weight is 920kg and new weight is 770kg, already got an uprated engine to 180hp with jenvey throttle bodies
5. Inglis6 Newbie Joined: Apr 2014 Angus, Scotland Posts: 11 Saxo rally car with 1.6 VTS twin cam engine

   #5 6th February 2016, 13:32

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by welshpug ph1 front end is a lot lighter.

   ph1? I dont know what that is
6. ESD1711 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2015 Edinburgh Posts: 217 2006 Audi A4 Avant 1999 Saxo VTS

   #6 8th February 2016, 07:50

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Inglis6 ph1? I dont know what that is

   Phase 1 - the early shaped front end
7. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

   #7 9th February 2016, 08:52

   you,ll be very hard pressed to get to that weight with all the upgrades -cage ,bigger heels -sump gaurds etc no matter what you do you got a low ratio box in it ?eg cr =lsd geared fro about 110 flat out intop --thats what you want for rallying--that will increase your performmance no end
8. Inglis6 Newbie Joined: Apr 2014 Angus, Scotland Posts: 11 Saxo rally car with 1.6 VTS twin cam engine

   #8 14th February 2016, 19:24

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by axsaxoman you,ll be very hard pressed to get to that weight with all the upgrades -cage ,bigger heels -sump gaurds etc no matter what you do you got a low ratio box in it ?eg cr =lsd geared fro about 110 flat out intop --thats what you want for rallying--that will increase your performmance no end

   Axsaxoman, have you heard of CCF before? Seen people speak about Carefully Crafted Fiberglass but cant find anything about them online?
9. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

   #9 15th February 2016, 08:35

   sorry no -- never heard of them
   
   try the pug forums
10. Dave_P Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI

    #10 16th February 2016, 17:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Inglis6 have you heard of CCF before? Seen people speak about Carefully Crafted Fiberglass but cant find anything about them online?

    They used to sell stuff on ebay a few years back not sure if they're still trading.
    
    I'm sure my 106's fibreglass doors came from them originally.
    
    http://www.leicester.co.uk/listing/4426/
    
    The weight your looking for should be achievable depending on the regs, you just need to look to reduce weight on every area of the car.
    
    I'm looking for 670kg's on my 106 hillclimb car this year...
11. Beaniemoo Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Milton Keynes Posts: 1210 Yellow 106 Rallye

    #11 16th February 2016, 18:59

    Yeah CCF made my doors, bonnet, boot and dash!
    Lovely old boy, but as you've mentioned I'm pretty sure they don't trade anymore.
    Dave, that's insanely light!?!?
12. welshpug Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.

    #12 17th February 2016, 08:13

    Satchell 205 is 666 kg with an iron diesel block
    
    try maximotorsport.com.
13. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #13 17th February 2016, 14:09

    yeah but how much metal is cut out of it lol
14. welshpug Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.

    #14 17th February 2016, 21:27

    lots, and some! bits replaced with carbon kevlar.
    
    I doubt you will get a rally saxo under 900 very easily tbh, sump guards two seats lights etc all add up!
15. charlie2 L-plater Joined: Jul 2014 Huddersfield Posts: 86 98 saxo vtr 99 Saab 9-3

    #15 26th March 2016, 17:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by welshpug lots, and some! bits replaced with carbon kevlar. I doubt you will get a rally saxo under 900 very easily tbh, sump guards two seats lights etc all add up!

    My rallycross saxo with sump guard and original tank,dash and heater with me sat in it was less than 900 kgs,so under 900 car only should be easy.