Stud & Nut Conversions

1. ESD1711 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2015 Edinburgh Posts: 217 2006 Audi A4 Avant 1999 Saxo VTS

   #1 9th May 2016, 09:31

   After scratching my head a bit over trying to source extended flat seated wheel bolts, i've come to the conclusion I'd probably be as well looking in to a stud and nut conversion.
   
   Have done a bit of searching on the subject, but most of the content I can find is a few years old now so i'm not sure whether the suppliers mentioned are still going (madaxgt seems to have been the best shout - does he still deal with these?)
   
   So....... is it still the case I should steer clear of the ones you can find on Rally Design for around a pound a stud?
   
   Where else can I source good ones with flat seated nuts that'll accomodate oem wheels?
   
   What length of stud should I be looking at to allow introduction of a spacer (10-15mm)??
   
   Any current advice and recommendations appreicated
2. welshpug Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.

   #2 9th May 2016, 12:04

   there's a group buy commencing shortly on the rallye register.
3. ESD1711 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2015 Edinburgh Posts: 217 2006 Audi A4 Avant 1999 Saxo VTS

   #3 9th May 2016, 12:56

   Thanks buddy, i'll look in to that - those look decent!
   
   Out of interest, what sorta length of stud should I be looking at?
   
   Will an 80mm stud have enough on it to accommodate a 10mm spacer as well as nut?
4. sri_130 Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2012 Doyncaster Posts: 783

   #4 9th May 2016, 22:20

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by ESD1711 Thanks buddy, i'll look in to that - those look decent! Out of interest, what sorta length of stud should I be looking at? Will an 80mm stud have enough on it to accommodate a 10mm spacer as well as nut?

   I'll measure the ones I've got (they're cheap) tomorrow for you, as they're in an axle on the garage floor. There was plenty of thread left after 20mm spacers. I'm sure you'll be fine with the ones on the rally reg. remember the nut is hollow!
5. welshpug Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.

   #5 9th May 2016, 23:08

   i just checked an o.e flat face wheel and a taper seat pro race 1.2, the former was 17mm the latter 8mm to the start of the taper.
   
   allow for 10mm of threads at the most in the drive flange, 6mm iirc of disc bell, leaving 64mm, -17 for a flat seat and 47mm left over for a nut.
6. ESD1711 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2015 Edinburgh Posts: 217 2006 Audi A4 Avant 1999 Saxo VTS

   #6 10th May 2016, 06:57

   Cheers for that mate, appreciated.
   
   So an 80mm stud would be fine.
   
   Have contacted the guy from the RR group buy - only thing is that his flat faced nuts come without a captive washer like the OE ones do.
   
   Should that concern me? What even does the washer do and how important is it?
7. deano_123 Established Member Joined: Nov 2011 Newcastle Posts: 1698 Range Rover Sport

   #7 10th May 2016, 11:25

   I got his conversion kit a while back, mine are 80mm and I run a 10mm spacer