What clutch?

  1. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 Bath Posts: 2577 Saxo VTR
    #1
    Hey guys.

    As the title says i'm after a clutch and hopefully you guys can assist in which one I should go for?

    I have recently just bought a new engine and gearbox for my GTI. The engine is running with proof 136.6bhp at the wheels with Newman PH3 cams, CatCam springs and a lightened and balanced flywheel.

    Wanting a good all round clutch that's good for a bit of b road blasting but not going to cost me a bomb! (yet) At the moment there's a LUK clutch kit in there, dated from end of Jan this year and its completely f**ked!

    Hope you can help me out!!
  2. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.
    #2
    standard clutch should be fine for that if you don't abuse it.
  3. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857
    #3
    As said the original equipment Valeo clutches are surprisingly good. Just be positive it is a genuine Valeo item and not some cheap pattern part. Some of the cheap ones failed to take even stock engines for long. If your after something a bit more aggressive Helix Autosport and AP Racing both used to offer unrated organic clutches that used to work well on fast road cars. No idea if they still sell them though.
  4. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 Bath Posts: 2577 Saxo VTR
    #4
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by welshpug View Post
    standard clutch should be fine for that if you don't abuse it.
    I want something that can take a little bit of abuse!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AXracing View Post
    As said the original equipment Valeo clutches are surprisingly good. Just be positive it is a genuine Valeo item and not some cheap pattern part. Some of the cheap ones failed to take even stock engines for long. If your after something a bit more aggressive Helix Autosport and AP Racing both used to offer unrated organic clutches that used to work well on fast road cars. No idea if they still sell them though.
    Yeah the company that did the Flywheel said a valeo would be okay but they're having a look at some better solutions! I may check with Kam Racing though!
  5. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.
    #5
    you're not meant to abuse it!
  6. Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 576
    #6
    ZF/Sachs
    Cover (for late-type flywheel with equidistant cover bolts):- 883082001126
    Plate :- 881861999872
    Don't bother with any other crap if you need to transmit good torque.
  7. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 Bath Posts: 2577 Saxo VTR
    #7
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chipwizards View Post
    ZF/Sachs
    Cover (for late-type flywheel with equidistant cover bolts):- 883082001126
    Plate :- 881861999872
    Don't bother with any other crap if you need to transmit good torque.
    I'll post a picture of my flywheel, I think it may be the earlier type!

    Where will I find this clutch?
  8. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 Bath Posts: 2577 Saxo VTR
    #8



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  9. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857
    #9
    It may just be the photo coming out a bit odd but the wear looks a bit odd. Is there substantially more wear at 4 and 10 o'clock or is it just the photo? May be worth laying a strait edge on it to check the face is true.
  10. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 Bath Posts: 2577 Saxo VTR
    #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AXracing View Post
    It may just be the photo coming out a bit odd but the wear looks a bit odd. Is there substantially more wear at 4 and 10 o'clock or is it just the photo? May be worth laying a strait edge on it to check the face is true.
    Just the photo mate! is only 3 months old too.
  11. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380
    #11
    those are heat spots --which will have changed surface hardness of flywheel -- you should either get it machined or replace -- could cause clutch judder on take up of drive .
    you could std type clutch and just double the upstand of the area which the plate sits on --that will give a little more capacity --make it 0.4mm instead of 0.2mm
    If you are going to get it refaced

    quite possibly caused by the lightening of the flywheel --less mass to absorb heat when you abuse it
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  12. Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 576
    #12
    That looks like it's had a 160 diameter clutch plate slipping its nuts off to me.

    It is a later type flywheel.

    I get Sachs/ZF stuff from Questmead in Rochdale. Speak to Steve, tell him you want the same ones I had (better give him the part numbers too come to think)