Important! : Saxo timing belt replacement

1. Jonathancilia Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2017 Malta Posts: 350 Lada samara 1.3 Citroen saxo 1.5d

   #1 25th September 2017, 12:13

   Hi, does someone have a complete step by step guide to change the saxo 1.5D timing belt?
   
   I would like to change it soon, do I need to remove the engine mount ?
2. Jonathancilia Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2017 Malta Posts: 350 Lada samara 1.3 Citroen saxo 1.5d

   #2 25th September 2017, 18:02

   Why do you need to loosen the cam and fuel injection pump sprocket bolts? Can't I just put timing belt on them with them in their place without loosening?
3. MartinObviously Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge

   #3 25th September 2017, 21:08

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Jonathancilia Hi, does someone have a complete step by step guide to change the saxo 1.5D timing belt? I would like to change it soon, do I need to remove the engine mount ?

   No the engine mount dies not need to come off.
   
   

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Jonathancilia Why do you need to loosen the cam and fuel injection pump sprocket bolts? Can't I just put timing belt on them with them in their place without loosening?

   You MUST loosen those bolts. the pump timing needs to be very accurate or it wont start.
   
   The pictures in the link I have provided is the official way to do it.
   
   https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qah5in3e9...3ARdXp0Qa?dl=0
   
   If you try it any other way, the belt won't last as long as it should or the car simply wont start.
4. Jonathancilia Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2017 Malta Posts: 350 Lada samara 1.3 Citroen saxo 1.5d

   #4 26th September 2017, 08:45

   I think i might give this one to a garage im not feeling confident to do it myself better safe than sorry, thanks for the help
5. Jonathancilia Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2017 Malta Posts: 350 Lada samara 1.3 Citroen saxo 1.5d

   #5 26th September 2017, 09:00

   But arent the pump and cam already in time if it is running right now with the currebt belt? If you loosen them you run the risk of losing the timing no ?
6. welshpug Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.

   #6 26th September 2017, 10:23

   no, because you pin the hub of the pulleys, the outer section moves around 10 degrees or so to allow for accurate pump and cam timing once belt tension has been set.

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7. Jonathancilia Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2017 Malta Posts: 350 Lada samara 1.3 Citroen saxo 1.5d

   #7 28th September 2017, 17:45

   I just checked the timing belt on my car, and the pulleys on mine are not slotted ( they cant be adjusted) they just go through a round hole. Does this mean that i dont disturb the bolts or what?
8. Jonathancilia Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2017 Malta Posts: 350 Lada samara 1.3 Citroen saxo 1.5d

   #8 28th September 2017, 18:00

   Or when you loosen the bolts it will turn only a fraction?
9. MartinObviously Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge

   #9 1st October 2017, 17:14

   There are 3 bolts. remove one fully and you'll see it's slotted. The head of the bolt usually covers the whole slot.
10. Alexa L-plater Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 95

    #10 27th September 2018, 13:47

    How to tension belt correctly?Is it possible without tension gauge?
11. MartinObviously Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge

    #11 27th September 2018, 18:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alexa How to tension belt correctly?Is it possible without tension gauge?

    With the belt at correct tension. you should be able to twist the belt by 1/4 with light pressure between 2 fingers. Between the 2 pulleys furthest apart.
    
    you check the tension after you have turned the engine by hand twice back to top dead centre.
12. Alexa L-plater Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 95

    #12 28th September 2018, 10:09

    Thank you for your advice.
13. Alexa L-plater Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 95

    #13 18th October 2018, 13:41

    How can I check how many tooths belt I need?Can I check somewhere with VIN?
14. Alexa L-plater Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 95

    #14 18th October 2018, 13:44

    I don't know why but TU1JP has 100(104) tooths.I need to check somehow which one I need.
15. shannon-ob Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 Bath Posts: 2577 Saxo VTR

    #15 18th October 2018, 15:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alexa I don't know why but TU1JP has 100(104) tooths.I need to check somehow which one I need.

    what's your reg? I will check for you.
16. Alexa L-plater Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 95

    #16 19th October 2018, 08:05

    Thank you ,but I'm not from UK.Can you check with VIN VF7S0HFXB57401680
17. MartinObviously Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge

    #17 19th October 2018, 18:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alexa Thank you ,but I'm not from UK.Can you check with VIN VF7S0HFXB57401680

    Part number 0816 56, 104 tooth belt.
18. Alexa L-plater Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 95

    #18 22nd October 2018, 13:48

    Thank you very much!
19. Alexa L-plater Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 95

    #19 5th November 2018, 13:42

    I found this info in (case someone need) Citroen doc. for 1.1 engine.
    Until engine 3762433 timing belt is 104 dents,and after 3762434 100 dents.