Trouble starting after 2 years in storage

1. kingkurt L-plater Joined: Mar 2009 Maidstone Posts: 72 2001 Citreon Saxo - 1.1 ltr Desire

   #1 27th September 2017, 16:59

   Hi guys
   
   I stored my little 1.1 desire rally car a few years ago and then ended up putting my back out, now after finally getting over an op I'm trying to get her running again. She wasnt turning over at all so I just fitted a new starter motor but now she screaming and shaking badly when I am trying to start her up
   
   I have only tried a few times because I dont wont to cause any permanant damage
   
   Any suggestions would be much appreciated (see video links below)
   
   Oh yeah and a small black box wired to a earth strap on the plug casing has broken off (pictured) any idea when it is? - sensor maybe?
   
   cheers
   
   https://youtu.be/lwaEKbO-GsY
   
   https://youtu.be/pdBgwAnLDlU
   
   https://ibb.co/hjE58k <------pic
2. kingkurt L-plater Joined: Mar 2009 Maidstone Posts: 72 2001 Citreon Saxo - 1.1 ltr Desire

   #2 27th September 2017, 21:46

   I have found out that the black box is a 'FALCON 2022 2.2 SENSOR' a capacitor used for noise suppression so Im guessing it wont effect the running of the engine and I dont need to worry about replacing it
3. user_18250 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Swadlincote Posts: 1185 2003 Black VTR

   #3 29th September 2017, 17:57

   Possible that the alternator has seized, thus preventing the crank from turning over.
   
   The scream could be being produced by a stuck drivebelt.
   
   Try removing the drivebelt to start the car, once it's off you can also check to see if you are able to turn the pulley on the alternator using your hand.
4. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #4 30th September 2017, 00:25

   steve is on the money, alt is seixed screeching is the belt.
   
   take the alt belt off itll probs fire straight up
5. kingkurt L-plater Joined: Mar 2009 Maidstone Posts: 72 2001 Citreon Saxo - 1.1 ltr Desire

   #5 30th September 2017, 14:42

   Yeah, it was the 2nd thing I tried yesterday, took off the belt and fired up straight away.
   
   Cheers
6. MartinObviously Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge

   #6 1st October 2017, 17:34

   That small snapped box as you said is the capacitor. the 3 plug ECU uses the capacitor for the sequential fuel injection. it lets the ECU know what cylinder has just fired.
   
   Ideally you will need to replace that. the EML will probably come on.
7. kingkurt L-plater Joined: Mar 2009 Maidstone Posts: 72 2001 Citreon Saxo - 1.1 ltr Desire

   #7 2nd October 2017, 16:44

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by MartinObviously That small snapped box as you said is the capacitor. the 3 plug ECU uses the capacitor for the sequential fuel injection. it lets the ECU know what cylinder has just fired. Ideally you will need to replace that. the EML will probably come on.

   Whats the EML?
8. MartinObviously Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge

   #8 2nd October 2017, 19:28

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by kingkurt Whats the EML?

   Engine Management Light
9. kingkurt L-plater Joined: Mar 2009 Maidstone Posts: 72 2001 Citreon Saxo - 1.1 ltr Desire

   #9 3rd October 2017, 12:36

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by MartinObviously Engine Management Light

   Yes that does come on and theres a strange buz going on under the bonnet when I turn on the ignition lights which then stops when it starts so maybe I should get another one.
   
   Any ideas where I can get one, can only find a second hand on Ebay
   
   Cheers
10. MartinObviously Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge

    #10 3rd October 2017, 19:21

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kingkurt Yes that does come on and theres a strange buz going on under the bonnet when I turn on the ignition lights which then stops when it starts so maybe I should get another one. Any ideas where I can get one, can only find a second hand on Ebay Cheers

    It's maybe a faulty relay under the ECU causing the buzzing.
    
    worry about the capacitor after its all good and running properly. it's not strictly necessary. I think it's 5 microfarad. Not sure if it can be bought, you might need to bodge one in from maplins or some other electrical store.

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