Phase 1 Magenta VTS what to do?

  1. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Ive had a few saxo's and 106's about 13 i think of the top of my head, and previously owned a caged magenta red vtr at 20 that had been set up for track on L plates the car was awesome and the colour gorgeous, not knowing how rare it was i sold it shortly after passing my test thinking id not be able to insure it, moved on to a broken audi a4, matey crashed the car and it ended up in the scrappy.
    A few weeks back i found this one on ebay and couldnt believe my eyes i had to have it, after it dissapearing off of ebay, me finding it on gumtree and 8 hours of driving its home with me and im making a start on it and enjoying every bit of it 6 years later.

    But what to do, track build, oem build but lower or stance it a little for shows etc ?

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  2. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Day after i picked it up i did the discs and pads all round as they were shot, looks like its had recent rear calipers everything went nice and easily gave the calipers a lick of paint while i was there and cleaned out all the arches made a big difference!

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  3. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Just abit of a difference hadnt been done for a long time!

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  4. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Once it was done out for a blast and some photo's most of mine have been lowered in the past , it was alot of fun but my god is it scary around corners its not quite as clean as it is in pictures the bonnet a pillars wings are chipped and the roof needs repainting due to laquer peel but for a 21 year old shes doing alright!

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  5. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Couple of weeks have been by and i cleaned up the engine bay as much as i can for now, if anyones good with removing alarm wiring let me know , the sounder isnt there , its just got standard remote locking but im far too scared it wont run again to be pulling wires out as im no good with that stuff! Its looking better definitely.

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  6. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Next up was the anti roll bar bushes , mine were knackered , cheap and easy fix only £21 from strong flex uk , feels alot less wobbly on a roundabout now but will still need alot more work.

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  7. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Gave it a good once over with my da and some cutting/finishing compounds a weekend or two ago, the colour is brilliant , im really struggling with what way to go with this car all sorts of ideas

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  8. Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2012 Doyncaster Posts: 783
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    Great project. Looks clean!
    Did you have a 2 tone VTS before?
  9. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Cheers mate it needs some tidying up and paint but its a good base project, i had a blue and silver vtr many moons ago bud but dont think i posted it on here.
  10. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Nothing major but given the front wiper arms a lick of paint changed the blades to aero and dewipered the rear also fixed the half hanging brake light/rattle with a jag numberplate clip strangely enough much better less annoying!

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  11. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Nice little drive out the other day got me in the mood for some photos

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  12. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Purchased a recently refurbished axle too as i want to lower the car a tad , this popped up on ebay for a decent price kill two birds with one stone when it arrives

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  13. L-plater Joined: May 2016 Bialystok, Poland Posts: 82 Half-Hooptie LHD 1.6 8v
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    Hi mate. That's one mint-looking specimen.
    I've seen a couple photos of a red mk2 vts, colour coded bodykit parts, and gloss white indianapolis rims. I this it was magenta also.
    These photos can be found there: http://alex.insaniak.com/saxonetwork/suki.php
    It looks amazing in my opinion. Especially the rims. Not sure about color coding, but I like it both ways.
    Painting the lower, concave part of the rear bumper black is a nice visual mod on saxos of a few colours aswell, red included. Color coding would be more invasive, and this one could be done with some kind of a peelable paint.
    Other than that I would just lower it very slightly and maybe put a nice, just a tiny bit louder exhaust.
    Even if you don't do anything to it, magenta red is one sexy colour for a saxo.
  14. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Cheers mate , i am very tempted to get it all colour coded as it does need the roof sprating along with bonnet and wings from chips etc, cant say ive seen a colour coded one in this colour so would be nice but then i also like the standard outside look so we shall see! The exhaust is non standard and it has a decat but still has centre box so its just right! Will lower it probably 60mm with different wheels and a vts spoiler i think

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  15. L-plater Joined: May 2016 Bialystok, Poland Posts: 82 Half-Hooptie LHD 1.6 8v
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    I am the biggest proponent of putting white rims on saxos. Even white steels look great on them
    How much does a refurbished VTS beam cost over there? Will need one in some time too, they're around 1100 PLN/230 GBP/260 EUR here, but it's very hard to find one.
  16. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Aha cant say im a fan on white wheels unless the cars white , thats pretty cheap bud theyre about 300 quid here!

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  17. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    New axle is here and ready to have some polybushes put in then fitted to the car

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  18. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project
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    Very clean looking car, i think it would be a shame to turn it into a track car as its so tidy. I'd probably just get it mint and subtle mods. It's your car though so have fun with it, its funny cos from reading your thread i'm a similar age to you and also owned my VTR at 20 and am looking for another now to re-live the saxo days haha.
  19. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.
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    Polish up the cam covers,it's a rare colour keep it pretty standard.
  20. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Thanks guys, Its not going to be a full on track car im just doing things that i know the saxo particuarly suffers with like shit brakes shit height etc aha exactly that mate in my time ive had about 14 saxo's and 106's that now ive finally got a mk1 vts in the colour i wanted that im going to do the things i wanted to do when i was younger just never got round to it

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  21. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Ive tried ish polishing up the cam covers but the paint etc they have had in the past has ruined them i may replace them eventually

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  22. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Ive just bought some brembos to refurb too

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  23. Newbie Joined: Aug 2015 Swindon Posts: 6 Saxo VTR Escort RS Turbo S2
    #23
    Nice example. Nice colour.
    Look forward to seeing more progress.
  24. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390
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    Dont do anything to it that cant be easily reversed; theyre definitely climbing in value! I nearly bought this a few years back as well.
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  25. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Yeh i intend too haha, at the same time ive wanted one this colour this shape for soo long i kinda never want to get rid of it, something to rekindle some fun whenever i feel like it

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  26. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Its finally lowered im sooo much happier with it now! Nothing drastic but enough that it looks better gets rid of the arch gap

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  27. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2018 Wirral Posts: 151 106 GTI - 106 GTI shell - New 106 Rallye shell
    #27
    Nice to see such a fine example
  28. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2011 Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 7779 Phase 2 VTS , E61 M5
    #28
    mmmmmm
  29. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #29
    cheers lads much appreciated! much more to come hopefuly
  30. West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S
    #30
    As mentioned above, keep it immaculate and don’t do anything to it that can’t be reversed. Keep ahold of original parts.

    These Mk1 VTS now are climbing in value ONLY if they are original. There are less than 5 left known in this colour!

    Above all make sure you enjoy it


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  31. West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S
    #31
    In fact. This was Isaac’s old VTS (checking back on the register that I kept) it was the best condition original Magenta VTS known to be left.

    Of the other two, one was a really badly repaired CAT C, and the other was a Tour De Course which also has non original panels & engine which has been off the road for many years.


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  32. L-plater Joined: May 2016 Bialystok, Poland Posts: 82 Half-Hooptie LHD 1.6 8v
    #32
    What kind of wind deflectors are you using mate? Need to get some for mine.
  33. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #33
    Willsy thats right it was! its needing alot of little bits but its steadily getting there , he didnt treat it that well , it needs alot paint through chips which ill do eventually, at the moment i just want to enjoy it, but i will keep original stuff indeed , theyre team heko ones polishsaxoowner
  34. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Busy busy at the weekend, im 26 now so the 3.5k revs at 70 on long journeys takes it toll on me now , soo ive fitted abit of sound deadning in places including the boot, abit was missing under the drivers side , its made things abit quieter which is nice! Gave everywhere a good hoover and clean, also stitched up the ripped rear seat looks alot tidier , last thing was to shampoo the carpet and clip it in properlly as it had got marks on it and come out of some of the grabber clips, looks spot on now just need some decent mats really

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  35. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    My gangly legs always hit on the standard steering wheel when on full lock , so ive changed it out for a legit omp boss and then a kode steering wheel which imo actually really suits the interior , well pleased with it

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  36. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Managed to bag a set of a couple month old gaz suspension yesterday cant wait to get them on the car

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  37. Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2013 Peterborough Posts: 136 Citroen Saxo 1.1 Forte
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    Looks lovely mate!

    2 things - how the hell did you get the carpet so clean?! And are you based in the north Cambs area?
  38. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #38
    Thanks bud! I got some material detailing cleaner cant remember the name of it, sprayed it on let it sit for a few mins then sprayed more on scrubbed it in and hoovered it up, in fairness it was pretty decent already i just wanted to remove some little stains

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  39. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Urmm i think so lol peterborough haha

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  40. Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2013 Peterborough Posts: 136 Citroen Saxo 1.1 Forte
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    Cheers for that, ill give it a go! And thought so, sure i've seen your fb profile pop up at some point
  41. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Yeh more than likely it pops everyone up now days aha

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  42. Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Birmingham Posts: 458 Saxo vtr turbo
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    Looks spot on mate
  43. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Cheers Craig getting there slowly long way to go yet
  44. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Just a small update for now , killallwipers finally do a rear wiper delete for saxo and 106 so i got one and slapped it in, much nicer than the ebay shite i had

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  45. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 Bath Posts: 2577 Saxo VTR
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    Quote:
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    Just a small update for now , killallwipers finally do a rear wiper delete for saxo and 106 so i got one and slapped it in, much nicer than the ebay shite i had

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    They do look smart! I will get one for my 106 when it's required
  46. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Yeh much better get it done mate

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  47. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 163
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpijkerVTS View Post
    Busy busy at the weekend, im 26 now so the 3.5k revs at 70 on long journeys takes it toll on me now , soo ive fitted abit of sound deadning in places including the boot, abit was missing under the drivers side , its made things abit quieter which is nice! Gave everywhere a good hoover and clean, also stitched up the ripped rear seat looks alot tidier , last thing was to shampoo the carpet and clip it in properlly as it had got marks on it and come out of some of the grabber clips, looks spot on now just need some decent mats really[IMG]
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    Is that a crack running on the boot floor from the left wheel arch? I only ask because I had one on the drivers side due to arch rust, all of which I have welded up.

    Cheers
    Craig
  48. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    New wheels turbed up today

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  49. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    No craig ive checked it just a little surface rust where the paints chip that ive treated all good now

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  50. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 163
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    Hi, did you peel back the carpet on the arch? Just that in the picture where the zig zag line looks like a crack, it also looks like it originates from a bulging section on the arch. This is exactly what mine was like, it started from where the reinforcement plate ends.

    All good if you are happy that it's not a crack etc, just wanting to make sure you've checked thoroughly as it would really need fixed urgently if it's a crack (it would mean that the boot floor was flexing through lack of structural rigidity).

    Cheers
    Craig
  51. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Yeh i poked it all along with a screwdriver because underneath its already been welded in places, but yeh its all good

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  52. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Another little mod nothing major, got a dab and bluetooth stereo as using a dodgy aux lead was getting on my tits and a mate had it laying around, colour changing to suit the dials on the cluster looks decent and so much better to use!

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  53. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Just to prove bud its just sticky residue no cracks im gunna clean it up better at some point

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  54. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 163
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    Nice one, really pleased for you that all is well. It was certainly an unpleasant shock for me when I discovered my rot and was a fair bit of welding work to put right! Thankfully you don't have that issue. Just as well to check and be sure, as you have done.

    Onwards and upwards!
  55. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Yeh so am i i should of cleaned it up efore i put the silent dent down really, but was inpatient when its warmer again i want to be doing all underneath and this etc with a wire wheel etc taking it back to bare metal then painting and under sealing fingers crossed just too cold for that shit at the mo aha

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  56. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 163
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    When you get to that stage, for heavens sake don't put underseal on it or even waxoly to be honest, I can strongly recommend Bilthamber products. You get a clear wax (Dynax UC) that comes in big 750 ml aerosols, and also S50 cavity wax. The clear stuff is just that -you can still see through it, so you can preserve the appearance under there.

    It also cleans really well, you just take a rag with soapy water to it and any grime and dirt comes straight off. It doesn't dry sticky either, just slightly tacky. The S50 is great for getting into box sections / chassis rails etc and comes with a 360 Degree directional long lance. So easy to apply and comes out tops in testing.

    I've used it on my classic mini, I have used S50 in all the box sections and UC everywhere under the car, floors arches etc. Great stuff.
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  57. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Cheers mate ill keep an eye out for it, yeh would be nice to see the original colour underneath rather than black underseal always looks like youre trying to hide something aha

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  58. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    She's not a fan of the colder weather but look at that bead though

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  59. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Quick test fit today see how the new wheels fit before i order tyres come payday , rear has a 20mm spacer and now sits lovely and flush, front is no spacer and sits pretty bang on too.

    Should have custom braided lines on the way for the front brembos for christmas hopefully then just need to order a gti6 master cylinder and i can get cracking on sorting the brembos out and fitting them.

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  60. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Started work on the brembo's today , man do these have some thick paint, what i originally thought was chips in the metal of the calipers was actually just chips in the mega thick paint which is handy, as theyre starting to look alot better now, lots of stuff left to do but getting there

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  61. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 163
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    Looking great. Just for further info, here's a couple of pics of my mini inner arches after using Dynax UC (Clear) wax. It goes on and dries great, leavin a slightly tacky surface. It comes up just as good again after washing dirt off, you can use a cloth / wash mit without any fear of damaging the wax.




    It's also great for exposed threads / bolt heads etc. Keeps them from rusting.

    Out of curiosity, your car looks about as lowered as mine and I see you have the front arch liners fitter. I have liners to fit but I wondered if you found the wheels rubbed them.
  62. Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2005 Manchester United Kingdom (England) Posts: 201
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    Just had to come here to say what a lovely example you have here. Linked from Cliosport.
  63. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Cheers dturbo that looks pretty good stuff ill definitely invest in some come su.mer when i start doing underneath would be nice for it to be body coloured underneath for sure!

    Thanks mcpikie think my mate mentioned it today nice to know its going well

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  64. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Oh yeah theyre 45 profile no rubbing bud

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  65. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    As long as all goes to plan i should be collecting these on wednesday ive won them on ebay arranged a collection so fingers crossed then just need omp rails some drilling and bolting and theyll be in.

    Id like to mask up the suade and dye the green material black with auto glym dye then hope it holds up

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  66. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 163
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    look good. I actually like the green, think it would go nice with the colour of the car.
  67. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    I sort of thought the same just its very drastic compared to the original interior , not sure yet , but cant wait to get them fitted car will be soo much more comftabke to drive i hope!

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  68. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Have some pictures of its last outing this year, get all of the goodies ive got waiting for it on over the next couple months hopefully

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  69. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 163
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    Love this car. Looking great!

    Always meant to ask you, how much is it lowered by? Looks just a tad lower mine at the back and about the same at the front, but I'm not sure how much mine is lowered by as it was like that when I bought it.
  70. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390
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    I have those Accord Trendlines, super comfy. Especially with the pump-up lumbar support and pull out leg support
  71. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    60mm rear 40mm front d turbo, are they i hope so haha , were they difficult to fit?

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  72. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390
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    Quote:
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    60mm rear 40mm front d turbo, are they i hope so haha , were they difficult to fit?

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    I just adapted them to fit old Corbeau subframes, but Ive seen someone else weld Saxo runners to the Accord base.
  73. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    That probably would of been easier ive bought some omp frames im going to drill and bolt them too i think picked them up today

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  74. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Havent got any pics have you gabbastard?

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  75. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Quick test fit today of how the seats will fit in, they need to be abit lower as im quite tall , god knows what im going to do about that gunna need to have a good think

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  76. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Took advantage of boxing day , me and a mate got to work doing the coikover conversion, car now has gaz front and rear suspension soo chuffed with it! Wasnt too difficult to do either

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  77. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    So when putting the gaz on i noticed abit more surface rust around the rear of the floor than id like, i was going to originally wait till the summer but as ive got a couple days off suppose there is no time like the present, ive used a wire drill to get all the big bad bits, then used some de-rust solution to get rid of the rest seems to be working, now leaving it over night tonight quick sand tommorow and ill lay some primer down until i decide what to do next

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  78. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    3 days later its all done ive gone for black as its easier on the axle, ill clear underseal it come payday will be ok for now as im not using it , made such a difference so pleased

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  79. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2018 Wirral Posts: 151 106 GTI - 106 GTI shell - New 106 Rallye shell
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    Very nice job indeed
  80. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Cheers bud

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  81. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Was abit of a pleb the other day doing my suspension didnt realise i had pulled the driveshaft out so a litre at least of gearbox fluid fell to the floor so today i cracked on with a gearbox oil change all done feels much better

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  82. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Made a start on the brembo's, i have a revuild kit ill be doing so dont worry about the spray on the seals etc ive got new nipples seals etc.

    Paint stripped twice brembo's have some strong as shit paint , sanded , high temp prinered, then red oxide primered abd then colour, i ran out of colour today so ordered some more to do them again, then its brembo stickers and laquer.

    Wont be as good as powder coating but for a home job for less than 50 quid im pleased

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  83. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 163
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    Looking great. Loving all your colour matching to the car. I might match my calipers to the cars colour! (Even though they are just standard ones!)
  84. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2018 Wirral Posts: 151 106 GTI - 106 GTI shell - New 106 Rallye shell
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    Excellent calliper refurbishment work...top marks. What car are the callipers from and do you have to run a minimum of 15" rims to get the required clearance?
  85. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Cheers lads! I like the colour alot and thought it would look sort of oem+ rather than over the top if that makes sense aha, yeh do it man amazon green is wicked, company called clear coats on ebay mixes the paint for me and its a perfect match for 15 quid a can which isnt bad!

    Theyre 406 3.0 v6 brembo's bud, you would have to have 15's and spacers if running high offset wheels like standard vts wheels. You also have to run a gti6 master cylinder and gti6 brake discs and custom braided lines from spoox motorsport all of which i have but yet to fit

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  86. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2018 Wirral Posts: 151 106 GTI - 106 GTI shell - New 106 Rallye shell
    #86
    Great, thanks for the detailed info on the callipers
  87. Newbie Joined: Jan 2019 Posts: 3
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    Wow, amazing that you did all the things by yourself.
  88. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    So far so good bud ive tinkered over the years, and my mates help me where possible, whole reason i bought the car was to learn a few more things and just enjoy the progress as much as driving it, definitely recommend it to anyone

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  89. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    New wheels are finally on with new tyres looks wicked

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  90. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.
    #90
    Looks nice,are you missing the mirror caps?
  91. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Cheers bud nah phase 1 dont have mirror caps lol

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  92. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #92
    Finally got a part thats been annoying my ocd on this car since i bought it , dash vents broken cant do anything with it and falls out if you arent careful

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  93. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
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    Out it came relatively easy actually nothing broke, new one went it, all done very pleased been meaning to fix it for a long time

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  94. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 163
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    nice, that bits broken on mine too. doesn't stay out when you pull it. I've actually jammed in a small piece of rubber as otherwise it rattles (along with everything else....)
  95. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #95
    Haha i can imagine thats annoying , they do tend to rattle rather alot especially when you have coilovers etc, keep looking on the facebook groups plenty of them breaking picked up this one for 25 quid posted!

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  96. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #96
    Nothing much at the moment too cold and im too lazy, mot is up next month so ill be doing bits and bobs soon!

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  97. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 163
    #97
    such a great looking car !
  98. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #98
    Cheers mate i love it haha

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  99. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #99
    So after weeks of cold weather it warmed up enough today for me to finish off the painting part of the brembo's , not perfect but behind the wheel they should look decent! Will have to do for a rattle can job

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  100. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #100
    So today was the day, fitted the bigger 23mm gti6 master cylinder, custom braided front lines brembo calipers and ferodo pads , brakes soo much better and looks wicked im so pleased!

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  101. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #101
    Drove a 4 and a bit hour round trip for a pair of seats the other night definitely worth it

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  102. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #102
    Removed the old seats today and put away, cleaned and hoovered the carpet again, then fitted the omp frames, was abit of a task drilling out the side mounts to fit the seatbelts i bought but all sorted eventually.

    So pleased with the outcome and being able to keep my rear seats, not wanting the stripped out look aha

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  103. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #103
    Fresh mot on the old girl today

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  104. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R
    #104
    Lovely car, looks in great condition!! If you ever think about selling you know where I am

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  105. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project
    #105
    Looks great, love the wheels too i used to have them on mine, i think the pro race 1.2's are the best wheel for a saxo
  106. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2004 Denny United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 666 Ford focus 2.0 Saxo VTS
    #106
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ben_SaxoForte View Post
    Looks great, love the wheels too i used to have them on mine, i think the pro race 1.2's are the best wheel for a saxo
    Na they are a cheap imitation of the alloys in
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  107. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #107
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raunchz View Post
    Lovely car, looks in great condition!! If you ever think about selling you know where I am

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    Thanks mate needs abit of paint here and there but shes decent now , haha will do ill add you to the list

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  108. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #108
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Furioman View Post
    Na they are a cheap imitation of the alloys in

    raunchz avatar
    Complete different purpose, not imitations completely different wheels and one of the most popular wheels going because theyre well priced , light and extremely strong

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  109. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #109
    Soo what an eventful few days its been, dragged the saxo out to use while my daily was in for some work, thought i wouldnt be let done by my trusted french steed as to date ive had no issues.

    I couldnt of been more wrong , so ever since ive had it on the odd occassion from cold i go to pull away and the car stutters alot until in 2nd gear then it clears...never really done anything about it as i dont use it often.

    Went to use it the other day and the idle was pretty irratic it wanted to stall but didnt, i showed the lads on facebook and they advised me to replace the idle control valve which made sense, replaced it the idle seemed good but now everytime i get to a set of lights while slowing down it stalled i had to bump it to carry on going.

    Soo another post and a few ideas later ive replaced coolant temp sensor, coilpack, map sensor and fuel filter also ....guess what it still does it the massive french turd

    Soo im stuck now few people saying lambda sensor so thats next on the list, parts are cheap and at least i know alot of them are now new which is nice i guess.

    Ive also done a coolant change as it looked horrendous and flushed it out as best as i could, which i found it has a nissens radiator bit of a bonus.

    Then an oil change with a new filter as its been nearly a year.

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  110. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 163
    #110
    Don't discount the throttle potentiometer. Mine went and it gave me erratic idle, occasional misfire when driving and just general poor running.

    I have also had the lambda go (it was actually OK but there were wiring issues). This made the car splutter and die constantly, you couldn't save it unless you went full throttle (where lambda is ignored) or switched it off and on again. Still don't fully understand what was happening there, I think it's to do with mine having a JP4S swapped into it but running off the saxo ECU.

    Throttle pot is the same as found on the VTR by the way.
  111. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #111
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dturbo View Post
    Don't discount the throttle potentiometer. Mine went and it gave me erratic idle, occasional misfire when driving and just general poor running.

    I have also had the lambda go (it was actually OK but there were wiring issues). This made the car splutter and die constantly, you couldn't save it unless you went full throttle (where lambda is ignored) or switched it off and on again. Still don't fully understand what was happening there, I think it's to do with mine having a JP4S swapped into it but running off the saxo ECU.

    Throttle pot is the same as found on the VTR by the way.
    cheers mate ive also ordered a fuel pump as i had a rallye converted to a 16v once and i remember it having same symptoms when i got rid of it , the next guy said he had issues with it cutting out all of a sudden, he changed the pump to a gti one and it fixed it, im gunna do the pump today hopefully, and if that doesn't work lambda and tps will be next , then all the sensors are pretty much brand new
  112. Established Member Joined: Dec 2008 Kent Posts: 1184 Saxo Furio
    #112
    nice mate , though I am liking saxos standard now , lowered a wee bit sets them off nicely though
  113. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #113
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nuttysaxo View Post
    nice mate , though I am liking saxos standard now , lowered a wee bit sets them off nicely though
    Cheers bud i loved how it looked standard, just drive wise it was far to wobbly to what im used too had to be changed so started building the car i wanted when i was 20 or so now i can afford to do bits aha<br><br>Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk<br><br>
  114. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #114
    Sooo new sender with new fuel pump already built inside, and still the same problem, hey ho another new thing ticked off the list , trying a new crank sensor tomorrow<br><br>Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk<br><br>
  115. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 163
    #115
    I'll be surprised if it turns out to be the crank sensor. when mine was misbehaving (lambda) it would get steadily worse, running rougher and rougher over a few seconds then splutter and die. I wondered about lambda so cut the wires to allow me to simulate intermittent loss of signal. I found that even the most minute loss of signal (I created very quick loss of signal by open circuiting one of the signal wires very rapidly and briefly) - the car would just die instantly when losing signal. My money is still on lambda or tps.
  116. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #116
    Tried a new throttle position sensor, new lambda sensor and a new crankshaft position sensor now bud still broken <br><br>Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk<br><br>
  117. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 22
    #117
    Get it booked in a garage.
  118. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #118
    If only it was that easy, dont trust many garages round my way nothing but trouble and issues in the past, they also dont see it as a rare old vts, just as a shitroen scrapso theyve not worked on in a long time, that you cant pull codes from as it doesnt have obd2...would cost a fortune and no ones interested in touching it<br><br>Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk<br><br>
  119. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 163
    #119
    No EML on? Do you have Lexia by any chance? Struggling to think of anything else tbh. Does it do it when the engine is still cold or just once heated up? Does the car drive normally aside from this (is it just an issue of cutting out when returning to idle) ? Did you clean the port that the IACV sits in? Also did you replace the IACV with a new one or a 2nd hand one?

    EDIT: another thought, have you checked out your fuel pressure regulator? There should be a vacuum line goes to it, under vacuum (i.e. idle and light throttle) the vac 'helps' the diaphragm to move thus reduces pressure under these conditions, when you floor it the vacuum collapses and the pressure is higher as it is no longer helping to move the diaphragm. Could check that you have vac there (pop the pipe off and check for vac at the end of it during idle).
  120. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #120
    No eml light on bud, whats lexia bud? Ive taken off my fuel pressure reg checked the pipe feels fine not brittle at all seems strong though, ordered a fuel pressure reg in for tomorrow will give it a crack before shipping it off to my mates thanks!<br><br>Have to say its a good looking garden ornament <br><br>Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk<br><br>
  121. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #121
    New fuel pressure reg still does it
  122. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 163
    #122
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpijkerVTS View Post
    No eml light on bud, whats lexia bud? Ive taken off my fuel pressure reg checked the pipe feels fine not brittle at all seems strong though, ordered a fuel pressure reg in for tomorrow will give it a crack before shipping it off to my mates thanks!<br><br>Have to say its a good looking garden ornament <br><br>Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk<br><br>
    Hi, lexia is the citroen diagnostic kit. You can buy it online (it's a clone of course). Very useful for diagnosing issues.

    I am just wondering if it could be the speed sensor from the gearbox. I think I have seen people describe similar issues when that fails, tells the ECU about road speed. I think however that would also give you issues with your speed readout. You could always try just unplugging it to see what effect it has. It is above the driveshaft output on the gearbox (think it sits on the drivers side).

    Does it do it cold / hot / both? Have you tried unplugging the O2 sensor? Could it be the power feed to the O2 sensor heater maybe?

    Must be very frustrating.
  123. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #123
    Oh i see will look into that lexia, we tried plugging my mates laptop into it hes got delphi software and it kept saying it couldnt connect with it for some reason, the car does it fron hot or cold now, ive replaced the o2 sensor and had a quick rummage to see if i could find any broken wires and didnt soo far, ill check that speed sensor cheers<br><br>Gunna drop it at my mates workshop before i set it a light today <br><br>Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk<br><br>
  124. Established Member Joined: Dec 2008 Kent Posts: 1184 Saxo Furio
    #124
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpijkerVTS View Post
    Cheers bud i loved how it looked standard, just drive wise it was far to wobbly to what im used too had to be changed so started building the car i wanted when i was 20 or so now i can afford to do bits aha<br><br>Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk<br><br>
    Hello mate , glad you've kept at it , mine went tits up two years back blown head gasket and just generally tired , I dragged it along with me all these years driving my girlfriend up the wall in it ! lol . last time I drove it her friend came down in her merc slk 55 amg they had a drink so I picked them up in the saxo , it scared her ! lol
  125. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #125
    Yeh me too in a way, just sods law summers coming up and now it chooses to not work , haha yeh theyre nippy for what they are and could fall apart at any second so im not surprised hahaha scared a fair few people in the trusty steeds
  126. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #126
    Soo after much fucking about, i sent it off to a buddy he found out when pulling the wires back on this plug that they just fell out from brittleness....you would think boom problem solved...fixed, nope ...it was better and he found out without the icv plugged in it now wouldnt cut out, soo we put the old icv and programmed it turning the key on and off winding it in etc, adjusting the air screw on the throttle body.....and finally she works again about time!<br><br>Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk<br><br>
  127. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 163
    #127
    Great to hear all is well again. What plug was it then?
  128. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #128
    Air temp i believe bud, i think it was mainly the icv valve not being correctly set could of saved me a few pennies but hey ho least i know all the other bits are done <br><br>Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk<br><br>
  129. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #129
    So now its working i again i remembered how sloppy the steering felt when cornering hard...the coilovers made a world of difference along with the anti roll bar poly's but still too wobbly side to side...so a front end refresh is being done.
    New ball joints
    New front and rear arm polybushes
    New driveshafts mine look old and skanky
    New track rod ends

    Fingers crossed gets rid of the sloppyness unless its the soft walled uniroyal tyres

    Ive also got a cambelt and waterpump kit on the way plus new gearbox oil again...definitely not a fan of 75w80 way to thin for one of these ...so going to chuck in some 75w90 fully synthetic should be alot better!
  130. Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2012 Doyncaster Posts: 783
    #130
    Does look sweet this thing.
    Let me know when you're selling it!
  131. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #131
    Thanks mate! Hopefully wont be for a while when ive finished it for abit , just needs paint really but i kinda dont want to paint it cos then ill threat about chips scratches swirls etc at the mo i dont care <br><br>Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk<br><br>
  132. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #132
    Gearbox oil, aux belt and cambelt waterpump turned up today so should be done in a couple days ready for me to actually drive the thing, only done 700 miles in the year ive owned it <br><br>Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk<br><br>
  133. Established Member Joined: Dec 2008 Kent Posts: 1184 Saxo Furio
    #133
    glad you got it sorted mate . mines a pain in the arse , had to drill out the fuel rail bolts to head , can't seem to find these ones anywhere on line , want it sorted before end of year to get it mot'd for the road again
  134. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390
    #134
    The MA boxes really like their intended oil, I wouldnt use somrthing different. If your box has a problem then its not oil related if you have 75w80 in it
  135. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #135
    Ahh really nutty saxo thats annoying i feel for you! Just remember itll be worth it in the end! Yeh mines the original box it came with so i suspect its worn with age, it whines abit in 3rd as well, will eventually get it rebuilt as i was told the other day citroen still do the bits and theyre pretty cheap! Ive put some synthetic oil in it so that its a bit nicer and less notchy from cold seems to of worked pretty well! Got it back last night had a quick blast but been raining....everything ive had done it feels like a totally different car im so pleased with it..ill clean it up at the weekend and put some pics up
  136. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #136
    Excuse the rusty arms , but its now had the bits done and ive given it as best a wash as i can underneath on my drive, so new driveshafts balljoints and polybushes underneath <br><br>Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk<br><br>
  137. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390
    #137
    Get those powerflex rear bush brackets so far to fuck, or take them off and weld gussets on. Theyre hopelessly designed and have strength in one plane only.
  138. Established Member Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2009 Saxò VTS 16v
    #138
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gabbastard View Post
    Get those powerflex rear bush brackets so far to fuck, or take them off and weld gussets on. Theyre hopelessly designed and have strength in one plane only.
    That's interesting,I have the same,purple not black bushes though,but the car hasn't seen the road yet,to be honest they don't look much at all but then again it's not that easy to weld reinforcements on the original bracket itself without blocking access to the bolt,maybe weld a triangle shape reinforcement on each side? Will take a look next time I work on the car.
  139. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge
    #139
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VeiRoN View Post
    That's interesting,I have the same,purple not black bushes though,but the car hasn't seen the road yet,to be honest they don't look much at all but then again it's not that easy to weld reinforcements on the original bracket itself without blocking access to the bolt,maybe weld a triangle shape reinforcement on each side? Will take a look next time I work on the car.
    Not if you use allen head bolts

    However a socket should still fit in there.
  140. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #140
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gabbastard View Post
    Get those powerflex rear bush brackets so far to fuck, or take them off and weld gussets on. Theyre hopelessly designed and have strength in one plane only.
    Apparently they do a stronger version now so im going to message them for a pair bud<br><br>Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk<br><br>
  141. Established Member Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2009 Saxò VTS 16v
    #141
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpijkerVTS View Post
    Apparently they do a stronger version now so im going to message them for a pair bud<br><br>Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk<br><br>
    You might want to add some reinforcement to the lower arms as I've read people bending them with brakes such as Brembos lol,also seeing as you have the Powerflex black,I've done it on mine but car still off road so don't have any feedback yet.
  142. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #142
    Yeh i heard about that too trusty french metal aye , theyre awesome bud its completely changed the car, i drive it so much more now <br><br>Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk<br><br>
  143. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #143
    Not really done much now apart from use it and polish it , cannot express how much im enjoying it<br><br>Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk<br><br>
  144. Established Member Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2009 Saxò VTS 16v
    #144
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gabbastard View Post
    Get those powerflex rear bush brackets so far to fuck, or take them off and weld gussets on. Theyre hopelessly designed and have strength in one plane only.

    This is what I did to mine anyway,welded 3mm plates (thickest one I had on hand) on each side and also added some welds on the inside not shown in the pictures, hopefully that prevents whatever the new powerflex design was made for.
    Also I have threaded the hole they left at the top for some grease nipple I don't see any other use for it? Unless for the excess grease to come out during installation.

  145. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge
    #145
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VeiRoN View Post
    This is what I did to mine anyway,welded 3mm plates (thickest one I had on hand) on each side and also added some welds on the inside not shown in the pictures, hopefully that prevents whatever the new powerflex design was made for.
    Also I have threaded the hole they left at the top for some grease nipple I don't see any other use for it? Unless for the excess grease to come out during installation.
    That's how powerflex should have made them in the first place.

    What idiot at powerflex thought it would be acceptable to send out the original folded metal shite.
  146. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #146
    Sorry chaps ive sold it <br><br>Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk<br><br>
  147. Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2012 Doyncaster Posts: 783
    #147
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpijkerVTS View Post
    Sorry chaps ive sold it <br><br>Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk<br><br>
    when? to who? why?
  148. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #148
    Few weeks ago bud, to a guy called anthony carrington hes got a yellow vtr already, i only did 1000 miles while owning the car, i did everything wanted to , to it and was gunna keep it forever, but realised i loved it on a cool day nipping around the town but apart from that i just didnt enjoy it anymore on long drives or when its boiling hot, the paint annoyed me and i got offered a good amount of money for it, its gone to a good home plus i have two other cars one a project and a daily soo time to let it go i miss it abit but also sont miss a few things about it so win win i guess...ill buy another at some point or a 182 im sure<br><br>Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk<br><br>
  149. Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2013 Newhaven Posts: 262 2003 Saxo VTR
    #149
    i know the guy who owns it now, will be well looked after his yellow one was mint.
  150. Newbie Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 3
    #150
    Yeh ive known him years he loves it<br><br>Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk<br><br>