which vtr...?

1. furiomike Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Whitby Posts: 2367 A4 B7 2.0T Quattro

   #1 12th December 2006, 01:19

   how do i tell which vtr has the 90bhp engine, and which has the 98bhp one? and is there any real performance and fuel consumption difference?
2. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

   #2 12th December 2006, 01:35

   CAT under car if its 90BHp and in manifold if its 98bhp, as for rest...someone who has had both will let you know in that
3. vipergfx Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2006 Washington Posts: 3117 veeteeess

   #3 12th December 2006, 02:00

   97-99; 90bhp - 0-60: 9.9 top end: 116 fuel: 36mpg
   99-; 98bhp - 0-60: 9.1 top end: 120 fuel: 42mpg
   
   but then again the above depends on how you drive it ^^;
4. saxoash Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 East Yorkshire United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6169 VTR

   #4 12th December 2006, 10:47

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by vipergfx 97-99; 90bhp - 0-60: 9.9 top end: 116 fuel: 36mpg 99-; 98bhp - 0-60: 9.1 top end: 120 fuel: 42mpg but then again the above depends on how you drive it ^^;

   Only the MPG depend on how you drive it
5. BLUE_DEVIL Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2005 Portsmouth United Kingdom (England) Posts: 631 54 reg Honda Civic Sport. 2.0L Sierra sapphire.

   #5 12th December 2006, 10:49

   90bhp ECU unit has one large single connector
   98bhp has 3 connectors on the ECU
6. Saxo_Steve Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2006 Prestwick Posts: 952 Saxo VTR mk2

   #6 12th December 2006, 16:01

   Usually the old shape is the 90bhp, new shape is 98bhp although I think there was a point at the changeover period where some new models had the 90bhp engine in them.
7. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

   #7 12th December 2006, 16:03

   2001 98bhp came into force as the only reason they beacme 98bhp was the emissions
8. saxoash Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 East Yorkshire United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6169 VTR

   #8 12th December 2006, 16:31

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by hesslevtr 2001 98bhp came into force as the only reason they beacme 98bhp was the emissions

   September 2000 actually, write it down and stop posting 2001 bitch
9. fredjudd Established Member Joined: Aug 2006 Salisbury Posts: 1118 Saxo VTR full Janspeed exhuast (4-2

   #9 12th December 2006, 16:38

   saxoash is right, my car is a mk2 W reg but 90 bhp engine.
10. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #10 12th December 2006, 16:52

    get your slef here mate am in the middle of writing a sticky for it! http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52052
11. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #11 12th December 2006, 16:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxoash September 2000 actually, write it down and stop posting 2001 bitch

    wrong!
    
    my car was registered november 2000 and is 90bhp lol....
    
    depends really some w reg's have the 98bhp just depends what engines they had lying around at the time....
    
    But i do believe they are all 98bhp from feb 2001..... but dont quote me on that.
    
    oh and mine is an X reg!
12. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #12 12th December 2006, 17:50

    who cares anyway
13. Luke Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 Bradford Posts: 26687 '15 Focus ST-2

    #13 12th December 2006, 17:53

    Here is a 98BHP model..
    
    
14. Sean Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 St Andrews United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7384 Green mk1 vtr/s and Focus zetec

    #14 12th December 2006, 17:57

    crossover was in september 2000- vtr's made before then had 90bhp silvertops, after sep 2000 they had 98bhp.
15. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #15 12th December 2006, 18:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Luke Here is a 98BHP model..

    shes a beauty!
16. Luke Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 Bradford Posts: 26687 '15 Focus ST-2

    #16 12th December 2006, 18:07

    Thank you mate.
17. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #17 12th December 2006, 18:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Luke Thank you mate.

    nee bother!
18. furiomike Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Whitby Posts: 2367 A4 B7 2.0T Quattro

    #18 12th December 2006, 20:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hesslevtr who cares anyway

    i care, thats why im asking the question you tard. id rather have 8bhp more and get 6mpg extra.
19. WestyVTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2004 Gosport Posts: 3140 saxo VTR, Clio 1.2 turbo, prious, Kawasaki 363 nin

    #19 12th December 2006, 20:35

    there is not alot in it TBH mine is 90bhp model but with no cat exhaust from the down pipe & a piper cross filter it made 110bhp! the 98bhp model will make approx the same!? 8bhp is nothing its how u drive!
20. SaxyDan L-plater Joined: Dec 2006 Bournemouth Posts: 53 Nout yet :(

    #20 12th December 2006, 20:54

    So are the engine mechanically different or is it just a different ECU? In that case surely a re-map will negate any difference?
21. WestyVTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2004 Gosport Posts: 3140 saxo VTR, Clio 1.2 turbo, prious, Kawasaki 363 nin

    #21 12th December 2006, 21:03

    ecu and the fat cat in the fanimold!!
22. piperX Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2006 United Kingdom Posts: 435

    #22 12th December 2006, 22:45

    the lamda sensor on manifold cover = 98bhp lamba sensor under manifold cover = 90bhp simple as A B C