vtr turbo kits

1. jamiep Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2006 S Wales Posts: 438 Citroen Saxo Westcoast

   #1 11th February 2007, 16:03

   Are there any companies that sell complete turbo kits, as in everything you need, to turbo a vtr engine? cost?
2. Josh_Phipps Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 1867 Mk 2 Vtr (sold), Fiat Seciento Sporting

   #2 11th February 2007, 16:09

   car worx
3. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

   #3 11th February 2007, 16:16

   There are a few companies now selling complete kits either fitted or diy most are around the £4000-£5000 mark and will produce around 180-200+bhp depending on budget and the engine in question.
   
   I know Cituning do a kit for both 8v and 16v, carworx and jam sport offer kits aswell as Superchargers.
   
   Be carefull tho as you gota make sure not only the brakes are upto the extra power but the chassis and driveshafts and transmisson is upto scratch. Reckon you need a budget of around £6000-£7000 for all the extra little bits remaps and for the bits that you fort was ok but will need replacing.
   
   Don forget about the extra running cost (fuel, tyres and services) but also increased insurance.
   
   Once youve taken all that into account, ask yourself would you rather have a Subrau? even for the budget kits around £4000, you could see yourself driving a turbo motor anyway.
4. jamiep Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2006 S Wales Posts: 438 Citroen Saxo Westcoast

   #4 11th February 2007, 16:17

   didnt think they were that much!!
5. Josh_Phipps Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 1867 Mk 2 Vtr (sold), Fiat Seciento Sporting

   #5 11th February 2007, 16:41

   Turbo + supercharging is a expensive job, dont just take into consideration the cost of having a turbo installed as down the line there will be things going wrong with it and you will be uprating stuff and so forth.. Its not a cheap option tbh.
6. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

   #6 11th February 2007, 16:45

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jamiep didnt think they were that much!!

   how much was you expecting to pay
7. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

   #7 11th February 2007, 16:46

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by VTS_16v_Boy Once youve taken all that into account, ask yourself would you rather have a Subrau?

   Subaru! no thanks i'd rather have a Turbo'd Saxo mate much more fun and cheaper to run, in terms of parts etc!!
   
   but tbh your looking at about £3000-£5000 for a full turbo setup and that doesn't include breaks, suspension, etc
8. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

   #8 11th February 2007, 17:52

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by S34MER Subaru! no thanks i'd rather have a Turbo'd Saxo mate much more fun and cheaper to run, in terms of parts etc!! but tbh your looking at about £3000-£5000 for a full turbo setup and that doesn't include breaks, suspension, etc

   All I was tryin to point out that after all that out lay you could have a car that rolled out the factory with a blower on it in the first place and should (wont say WONT) break down everytime its driven hard.
   
   Not sayin Turbo'd Saxos are unreliable but if you was planning to convert to forced induction it might be worth having a car to take over the dutie of the daily drive as traffic and everyday driving would put a heavy wear on clutches and transmissions.
   
   Well worth doing your homework before talking to the bank manager
9. bbewekim Established Member Joined: Jul 2006 Gloucester Posts: 1232 Black Ibiza fR

   #9 11th February 2007, 18:27

   Although its nice to say 'yeah i did that...' you may aswell go out... buy a turbo'd saxo for say 4-6k... (Y) Someone's bound to sell one. Then you've saved your self a great deal of cash as long as the job was a gooden.
10. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #10 11th February 2007, 18:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by S34MER Subaru! no thanks i'd rather have a Turbo'd Saxo mate much more fun and cheaper to run, in terms of parts etc!! but tbh your looking at about £3000-£5000 for a full turbo setup and that doesn't include breaks, suspension, etc

    a saxo rather then a subaru i think you need your head testing
11. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #11 11th February 2007, 18:38

    a could sorce the parts for abou 2-2500 but then there fitting and mapping. id go supercharged if had to choose
12. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #12 11th February 2007, 19:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hesslevtr a saxo rather then a subaru i think you need your head testing

    a Turbo'd Saxo over a scooby any day for me young lady! 200bhp at the wheels of a Saxo would wipe the floor with a Scooby, plus the Scoob would cost twice as much to fix if things went wrong, running costs, etc!
13. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #13 11th February 2007, 19:16

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by S34MER a Turbo'd Saxo over a scooby any day for me young lady! 200bhp at the wheels of a Saxo would wipe the floor with a Scooby, plus the Scoob would cost twice as much to fix if things went wrong, running costs, etc!

    saxo would break down more though
    
    plus you will never beat the sound of a scooby
14. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #14 11th February 2007, 19:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hesslevtr saxo would break down more though plus you will never beat the sound of a scooby

    i agree with you on both those points!! but the Saxo would be much much more fun to drive!
15. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #15 11th February 2007, 21:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by S34MER i agree with you on both those points!! but the Saxo would be much much more fun to drive!

    i dont like it when you agree with me
    
    still rather have a scooby
16. Marks_saxo_vtr Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Bolton, United Kingdom (England) Posts: 425 Saxo vtr mk2 - Zcars Mini R1 rally car

    #16 13th February 2007, 17:57

    I love my saxo now i've put in a 16v but i'd have a scooby anyday of the week! You could get one running to well over 200bhp!!
17. Awretham Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2004 Surrey Posts: 801 200sx S13

    #17 13th February 2007, 19:13

    I've got an 8v turbo kit for sale if you're interest
18. supersav Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2003 walton on thames Posts: 287

    #18 13th February 2007, 19:55

    Take a look at the supercharger kit from gmc, It's not soo far off the price of a "proper" turbo kit, plus it'll be a mile nicer to drive.
    
    Having driven a wrx sti prodrive (305bhp), I have to report, that yes it's a hell of a piece of kit, but, uppon arriving at 3500 rpm all hell brakes loose, would be VERY easy to get yourself into a LOAD of bother quicker than you can blink, especialy if you were to put that style of power delivery into a fwd hatch, I'll explain......
    
    I would expect a 200+ bhp turbo saxo to be similar in the way it delivers it's power, kind of normal, normal, normal.......HOLY S**T!!! and when you take into account the natural tendency of a fwd car to under steer whilst on the power, and then the lift off over steer when you back off, leaves not so many senareos:
    
    A. the owner/driver is ever so talented. ( the person who boasts hes is normaly aint)
    
    B. the car gets written off quite quickly and possibly kills someone (wast of all that time, money, and life)
    
    C. the owner/driver knows he can't drive and never gets to feel the full benefit. (again, big wasted effort)
    
    Supercharger is infinately more progressive, so even the most "special" of drivers can handle it's delivery.
    
    Just my 2 pence worth.
    
    Pete

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19. landanimal Frequent Poster Joined: May 2008 bournemouth Posts: 582 saxo vtr, mk3 fiesta 1.1 - 2.0 zetec project

    #19 8th February 2009, 01:19

    personally i dont like subaru's or the sound of one. but it would probably be safer to have one of them than a turbo saxo lol not that im going to complain cause im in the progress of turboing mine lol havnt got that far yet goin slow on parts at the moment.
20. chez91 Newbie Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 27

    #20 24th June 2009, 21:58

    hello peeps jst to let sum ppl no im in the middle ov turboing my vtr
    i have got:
    THE TURBO N MANIFOLD TO FIT(TURBO OFF 306 D TURBO) £40
    ALL THE BOOST PIPES £free
    INTERCOOLER £free one off my dads rs turbo
    OIL COOLER £free
    DUMP VALVE £free
    
    N i jst need to sort the oil return out n the oil feed n get an exhaust made from the turbo to the link pipe which i can get done @ work 4 free like i have had all the boost pipes @ work done n the manifold adapted to hold turbo
    
    i jst want to no what else i need
    do i need a decomp plate?
    n could i just remap the ecu instead off runnin a 5th injector?
    what boost do u think is a reasonable boost to run?
    
    much appreciate it if you could help me out

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21. miamibluebaby Established Member Joined: May 2009 Ellesmere (Shropshire) Posts: 1044 superchared 106 gti

    #21 24th June 2009, 22:04

    to say the least the above sounds erm ..interesting? ?hmm
22. jordysaxobby Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2009 stafford Posts: 929 mk 2 1.4 cammed vts conversion, mk 1 mango westcoa

    #22 7th June 2010, 19:04

    is the turbo and manifold off a 306 D turbo... if not were was the manifold from and what manifold is it?
23. JOHNJELLY L-plater Joined: May 2010 Burnley Posts: 97

    #23 7th June 2010, 19:12

    Old thread.
    
    Would it be easier/cost effective to put another turbo'd engine in a saxo like a C20LET or something.
24. lovesaxovtr Newbie Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 1

    #24 3rd September 2010, 14:17

    Due to a diesal running at 4500rpm max and a petrol runing at 7500rpm, would the diesal turbo stall out runing over 4500rpm?
25. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

    #25 3rd September 2010, 20:42

    you ever noitced how boys with scoobies burn the roads for the first week or 2 then you only see them sneaking about after that --
    -20mpg is the reason and having to buy 4 tyres at a time .
    and anyway unless you dump mega money into one your saxo boosted car will eat it ,
    as for reliability --thats in the drivers hands --don,t show off to the chicks by wheelspinning all the time and then would why the g/box explodes.
    and go for a sensible bhp level if you want to use as an everyday car--no more than 240 @wheels

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26. Rhysupply Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 gloucester Posts: 211 Xsi 106 fiat bravo 1.8 ph2 saxo vts

    #26 27th March 2012, 23:15

    I'm in process of turbo my vts my aim is just over 200 bhp on low boost do should be nice and reliable and not to many problems out of interest what can standard pistons take I've heard 350 bhp but only upto 8k revs
27. user_35090 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 west mids (dudley) Posts: 1201 cammed 106 flatty

    #27 27th March 2012, 23:19

    they will take 200bhp easily providing fueling is sorted by a standalone ecu.
    
    200bhp in a vts you wont need an 8k rev limit either. it will be quick enough.
28. Rhysupply Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 gloucester Posts: 211 Xsi 106 fiat bravo 1.8 ph2 saxo vts

    #28 29th March 2012, 22:22

    What size turbo /type of turbo would reccomend. Don't want to big as will have lag and don't want to small to have to run big boost to get the power like happy medium
29. SeniorGT L-plater Joined: Mar 2011 Rotherham Posts: 45 C2 GT Turbo

    #29 29th March 2012, 23:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rhysupply What size turbo /type of turbo would reccomend. Don't want to big as will have lag and don't want to small to have to run big boost to get the power like happy medium

    If your only aiming for 200bhp stick to something small, with a good manifold that doesnt choke it at higher rpm, a t2 or td04 or similar will be more than enough.
30. Rhysupply Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 gloucester Posts: 211 Xsi 106 fiat bravo 1.8 ph2 saxo vts

    #30 30th March 2012, 07:47

    Cheers man any reccomended manifolds ?