Tappity Tappity Tap

1. baronvontinkle Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Doncaster Posts: 129 2002 Saxo VTR

   #1 20th February 2007, 16:19

   Right instead of asking what the tapping noise is i know its my tappets. Searched the threads and found this:
   
   adjusting the tapets is easy so get outside and do it yourself, put the car in 3rd gear and jack the car up on one side at the front, then remove the rocker cover and spark plugs so u dont have to work against the compression. next turn the front wheel thats raised off the floor in a forward direction to turn the engine over to the correct position and adjust the valves to the following specs using a feeler gauge:
   
   
   valve clearances are- 0.20mm for all the inlet valves and 0.40mm for the exhaust valves
   
   
   No.1 exaust valve fully open - adjust No.3 inlet and No.4 exhaust.
   
   No.3 exhaust vale fully open - adjust No4 inlet and No2 exhaust.
   
   No4 exhaust open- adjust No2 inlet and No1 exhaust.
   
   No2 exhaust open - adjust No1 inlet and No3 exhaust.
   
   Is this correct? Just checking you see before i start taking things apart.
   
   Also is it easy to do? I have all the tools and moderate knowledge and a brother with more knowledge
   
   Cheers

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2. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

   #2 20th February 2007, 17:08

   yeah its fairly strihgt forward for a bigginer, i beileive thats the info that i posted up for someone else in a different threat
3. baronvontinkle Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Doncaster Posts: 129 2002 Saxo VTR

   #3 20th February 2007, 17:10

   It is indeed. Is this cold or warm by the way?
4. chrisni1986 Established Member Joined: May 2005 Northern Ireland Posts: 1020 EVO 5, 306XLD

   #4 20th February 2007, 18:19

   fine for a vtr but you cant adjust vts ones sure ya cant?
5. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

   #5 20th February 2007, 19:14

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by baronvontinkle It is indeed. Is this cold or warm by the way?

   they should only be checked and adjusted when the engine is cold
   
   

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by chrisni1986 fine for a vtr but you cant adjust vts ones sure ya cant?

   nope u cant adjust a vts as they have hydraulic tappets which automaticly adjust the valve clearences

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6. Saxo_Steve Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2006 Prestwick Posts: 952 Saxo VTR mk2

   #6 20th February 2007, 22:54

   I am going to be thick here and ask what adjusting the tappets actually does?
7. Awretham Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2004 Surrey Posts: 801 200sx S13

   #7 20th February 2007, 23:25

   Quote:

   valve clearances are- 0.20mm for all the inlet valves and 0.40mm for the exhaust valves

   Don't use those values, you want to set the tappets when the engine is warm! and set them to - 0.20 inlet and 0.3 exhaust
   
   I can't be bother to argue with anyone that thinks different; so speak to GMC and they'll confirm this.

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8. baronvontinkle Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Doncaster Posts: 129 2002 Saxo VTR

   #8 21st February 2007, 16:04

   lol. now i'm confused.
   
   I had somebody do it for me (mechanic/friend of the family) and as far as i know he only did it cold. What clearances i dont know but it still taps.
   
   Then decided to do it myself and save a few squid
   
   I'll try the cold way then if it still makes a noise try the warm way \-<
9. Chris_Ward_vtr Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2006 Welwyn Garden City Posts: 640 2000 Citreon Saxo VTR 1.6i

   #9 22nd February 2007, 19:22

   im trying this tonihgt because a cowboy dne them for me and now my cars misfiring like f**k and stallin, Ill let ya know how it goes.
10. baronvontinkle Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Doncaster Posts: 129 2002 Saxo VTR

    #10 22nd February 2007, 20:23

    Cheers mate. Yeah deff let me know how it goes
11. Chris_Ward_vtr Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2006 Welwyn Garden City Posts: 640 2000 Citreon Saxo VTR 1.6i

    #11 22nd February 2007, 23:25

    Done them and they were really easy to do, No tapping but it is still misfiring so im gessin somethin else is wrong, a mate had a look and he said it sounds like im gettin to much air through?
12. baronvontinkle Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Doncaster Posts: 129 2002 Saxo VTR

    #12 24th February 2007, 13:54

    Right. This is gonna make me look like a dunce but i took the rocket cover off. spark plugs out no probs. When i looked into the engine i only had one problem.
    
    What the hell does a tappit look like???
    
    Instead of just adjusting anything i put the car back together (thankfully worked after) but whilst i was doing that noticed something weird about the sound it was making. Its more popping than tapping and its coming from something on the car which i think is an injector.
    
    I've posted a video of what i'm on about. It seems to be coming from that blue thing
    
    Thanks for any help people
    
    http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u...t=MOV00562.flv
13. jablitt Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 leciester United Kingdom (England) Posts: 720 Westie, Clio 172

    #13 9th April 2007, 23:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by baronvontinkle Right. This is gonna make me look like a dunce but i took the rocket cover off. spark plugs out no probs. When i looked into the engine i only had one problem. What the hell does a tappit look like??? Instead of just adjusting anything i put the car back together (thankfully worked after) but whilst i was doing that noticed something weird about the sound it was making. Its more popping than tapping and its coming from something on the car which i think is an injector. I've posted a video of what i'm on about. It seems to be coming from that blue thing Thanks for any help people http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u...t=MOV00562.flv

    have you found out what that weird popping noise was? mines doing that but not as loud. cheers.
14. Banger_VTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2006 Co. Durham Posts: 2670 voiture tres rapide, deux ton

    #14 17th July 2007, 23:28

    sorry to bump this back up but does anyone have any idea what that noise is, mines doin it and im doin me nut in trying to find what it is
15. Jay_uk Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Kidderminster, Worcestershire Posts: 239 Black MK2 VTS

    #15 17th July 2007, 23:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by baronvontinkle Right. This is gonna make me look like a dunce but i took the rocket cover off. spark plugs out no probs. When i looked into the engine i only had one problem. What the hell does a tappit look like??? Instead of just adjusting anything i put the car back together (thankfully worked after) but whilst i was doing that noticed something weird about the sound it was making. Its more popping than tapping and its coming from something on the car which i think is an injector. I've posted a video of what i'm on about. It seems to be coming from that blue thing Thanks for any help people http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u...t=MOV00562.flv

    A tappet is like a piece of metal shaped like a checker ( you know the game checkers) it basically small cylinder which fills with oil and sit under each lobe of the camshaft, 8 tappets for a VTR 16 for a VTS obviously as you have a camshaft for both inlet and exhaust
16. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #16 11th September 2008, 13:47

    pictures tbh as im curious
17. dan-evo-6 Newbie Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 14

    #17 4th October 2008, 20:06

    this will work the same as if number 1 cylinder is on the rock between inlet and exhaust then adjust number 4 cylinder!!!
18. user_4153 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2004 Cambs Posts: 630 Vts track car

    #18 4th October 2008, 22:09

    Buy yourself a haynes manual.
    Dont go adjusting things you arent sure about.
    Be very careful that you dont overtighten the tappet nuts either.
    If one snaps thats a head off jobby=££££££
19. DangerousD Newbie Joined: Jun 2008 Middlesbrough Posts: 1 MK1 Saxo VTR

    #19 5th October 2008, 12:09

    so does anyone know for sure what the clearances are? ive got mine totally in bits right now, head gasket went yesterday so i might as well set them at the same time. i cant believe everyone rips french cars when they are so easy to work on!!!
20. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #20 6th October 2008, 11:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DangerousD so does anyone know for sure what the clearances are? ive got mine totally in bits right now, head gasket went yesterday so i might as well set them at the same time. i cant believe everyone rips french cars when they are so easy to work on!!!

    yes the information provided in the first post is correct or atleast its what shitroen told me also says the same in the haynes manual

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21. DreamEater Established Member Joined: Jun 2011 Hertfordshire Posts: 1574 '07 Saab 93 Vector Sport - '79 Citroën Dyane

    #21 18th April 2012, 03:01

    First post is correct, my Citroen mechanic friend confirmed this when we adjusted mine
22. user_57322 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 334

    #22 21st April 2012, 16:01

    So, is it or isn't it possible to adjust on a VTS?
23. DreamEater Established Member Joined: Jun 2011 Hertfordshire Posts: 1574 '07 Saab 93 Vector Sport - '79 Citroën Dyane

    #23 21st April 2012, 18:18

    Not possible, they are hydraulic.
24. tom_lloyd_4 Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2010 alton hampshire Posts: 348 97 mk1 vtr 85 LR 90

    #24 21st April 2012, 22:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DreamEater First post is correct, my Citroen mechanic friend confirmed this when we adjusted mine

    so you did just reply to a question asked in 2008 lol
25. DreamEater Established Member Joined: Jun 2011 Hertfordshire Posts: 1574 '07 Saab 93 Vector Sport - '79 Citroën Dyane

    #25 21st April 2012, 22:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tom_lloyd_4 so you did just reply to a question asked in 2008 lol

    Yes, a recent thread asked this question. But this one that is often quoted has some questions etc that needed confirming.