vts head help

1. Consett_chris Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 144

   #1 22nd March 2007, 22:35

   my mate has a nasty rattle on his vts. so we have bought a replacement vts head and are going to fit it at the weekend. we have a new head gasket and head bolts anything else we need. any help or guides on swopping the vts head would be a great help? wil we have to remove the timing belt or not?
2. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

   #2 22nd March 2007, 22:43

   yes you wil have to remove the timing belt so it would be advised to fit a new one as ur taking it off, u also need coolant, also an oil change would be a good idea, here is a vts cambelt/headgasket guide i made http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65315
3. Consett_chris Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 144

   #3 22nd March 2007, 22:45

   cheers mate. so ho wil i no if new head is set up and locked in place correct
4. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #4 22nd March 2007, 22:47

   its goes onto dowels so has to line up. why do you think its the head causing this though?
   
   also, you will need a torque wrencj to tighten head bolts.
5. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

   #5 22nd March 2007, 22:48

   oh and inlet / exhaust manifold gaskets
6. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

   #6 22nd March 2007, 22:50

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Consett_chris cheers mate. so ho wil i no if new head is set up and locked in place correct

   
   lock the old head and then take it off and then lock the new head to the same sequence as williams said with the dowls as shown in my guide pics
   
   
   
7. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #7 22nd March 2007, 22:52

   btw, inlet manifold gasket from cit is £37.
   
   you can get head kit from ebay for that. you thought about getting new head skimmed to make sure its flat?
   
   i dont see why the head would be fucked though. and making a rattle. maybe a component in the head but not the whole thing.
8. Tobs Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2005 London Posts: 3416

   #8 23rd March 2007, 12:36

   the only components in the head that would make a rattleing sound is the cams. but thats not even a loud rattle
   
   have you just guessed that its the head?
9. VTS123 Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Poole, Dorset Posts: 447 Mk1 VTS

   #9 23rd March 2007, 13:22

   Maybe a hydraulic lifter shot?
10. Consett_chris Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 144

    #10 23rd March 2007, 18:21

    the lifters not in the head like? we payed nothing for the head! i thought it was the cam so just gunna put a whole new head on. its been skimmed at my work and new gasket etc to go in. if we are gonna try and sort wanted to do everything so its mint. head has only got 22k on it. so we just decided replacing the old head would be best option as car has done almost 65k
11. Tobs Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2005 London Posts: 3416

    #11 23rd March 2007, 18:35

    hydraulic lifter?
    
    wtf are u on about
    
    all components in the head are
    
    rocker cover
    rocker gasket
    cams
    cam caps
    cam seals
    vavles
    vavle springs
    cam followers
    vavle seats
    shim
    vavle seal
    pulleys
    
    what u on about hydraulic lifter?
12. Consett_chris Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 144

    #12 24th March 2007, 09:22

    i didnt think they were in the head? but to be honest i dont no much about vts engines never woeked on one. we thought that the cam was knackerd or possibly a vavle was shot thats why we bought a replacement head? are we not going about this the best way. iam going to attempt this later on today aslong as my mate has bought all the gaskets. or should we just try and find the problem and foix that. i just thought a replacement head would of been the easiest idea.
13. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #13 24th March 2007, 11:38

    tobs, hydraulic lifters are in the 16v head. what do you mean whats he on about?
14. Consett_chris Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 144

    #14 24th March 2007, 11:59

    im dont no wot is in and wot is not lol. but i could do with some advice lol. so does sanybody think just changing the head should sort it or not?
15. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #15 24th March 2007, 12:00

    could do. is the head complete or are you ahving to swap parts over? what does the noise sound like and when did it start happening? was there any mods done just before it started making the noise?
16. Consett_chris Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 144

    #16 24th March 2007, 12:12

    no mods to engine at all. its like very distinctive tapping quite loud been happening for 3 months so my mate says and got progressivly louder! why he has left it this long is beyond me! and the head is complete all a parts intact and has been skimmed to. the noise is very tappy hard to describe but sounds defo like top end! but i thought that on my almera gti, and then the a bolt in the crank came loose and was bye bye engine and a nasty hole lol