setting up gti timimg with gearbox on ???please read

1. g18ffn Newbie Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 21

   #1 29th March 2007, 14:39

   rite am changing timing belt on my 106 gti 1998 and looking to know how to line up the bottom crank pulley using the small line on it with a mark on the block? last time a changed my old vts one a used this method and was fine jst cant mind what mark on the block i used any1 help?
2. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

   #2 29th March 2007, 15:59

   I dont use that method, I just lock it to TDC through the hole in the block. Same with the cam pulleys, lock them through in the head. Then stick the belt on.
   
   Be careful if you try and use the lines on the belt to line everything up, cos the GTi6 uses the same belt as the VTS, but has the marks in a different place.
3. woodsy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 area 51, navada desert Posts: 2809 mk1 1998 silver saxo vts

   #3 29th March 2007, 17:31

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Gabbastard Be careful if you try and use the lines on the belt to line everything up, cos the GTi6 uses the same belt as the VTS, but has the marks in a different place.

   
   **EDIT**
4. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #4 29th March 2007, 17:47

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by woodsy no it hasnt ... on the crank pulley the is a line across it this needs to be at the bottom just make sure all the lines on the belt match up the the crank and pulley markings

   why do that? the locking holes are there for a reason, to lock everything at TDC.
5. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

   #5 29th March 2007, 19:15

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by woodsy no it hasnt ... on the crank pulley the is a line across it this needs to be at the bottom just make sure all the lines on the belt match up the the crank and pulley markings

   Well somethings been wrong with belts I have bought, cos theyve been listed as GTi6 belts, and the lines were DEFFO in different places to standard Citroen belts.
   
   Anjd Im with Williams, locking everything is the best way to do it,saves you trying to make sure the lines stay in the right places.
6. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

   #6 29th March 2007, 20:24

   the marks on the timing belt are on the following teeth for a vts/gti Teeth 1, 52, & 72. its all expalined in the guide i made on how to change vts/gti timing belts, lock the crank and the cams properly and there are all pics/guide on the following thread
   
   http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65315
7. g18ffn Newbie Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 21

   #7 29th March 2007, 20:48

   no a meant the line is on the crankpulley m8 its ok checked on autodata it goes 2 6,oclock postion anyway all setup and belt on everything running gd. oh and saved me taking starter etc of!
8. woodsy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 area 51, navada desert Posts: 2809 mk1 1998 silver saxo vts

   #8 29th March 2007, 20:57

   i never said not to use the locking holes...
   
   and read a post wrong so get down off your soap boxes
   
   and why the fook would you buy a gti6 belt for a saxo regardless if it fits????
9. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

   #9 30th March 2007, 00:58

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by woodsy and why the fook would you buy a gti6 belt for a saxo regardless if it fits????

   Because depending on who supplies it, itll come marked on the box for a variety of applications - I forget the others but there are a few engines which use this belt. Depending on if its intended to be sold for a 306, the belt will be marked as such, but the same part number will show in the stock file for all engines.
   
   Hope I didnt stand up on my soap box too much.
10. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #10 30th March 2007, 01:49

    because like a lot of parts from pug/cit, they use them same parts on a range of cars.