best manifold to get for a 2000 vtr?

1. badman_liam L-plater Joined: Oct 2006 wolvo Posts: 34 saxo vtr phase 2

   #1 13th April 2007, 00:45

   i obviously want performance but i really want my car to sound louder at the same time,whats the best manifold to get? whats the cheapest? any help?
2. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #2 13th April 2007, 08:49

   best i would get gmc 4-1, 4-1 gives better mid range and top end power
   or 4-2-1 (raceland) for lower down power.
   
   Being honest cant see the point in getting a 4-2-1 manifold on a vtr if wanting more power for fun. as already has good lower range power, plus when your giving it some when do you ever have the revs under 3k? so if wanting a performance manifold get a 4-1 for higher range as thats where your revving it when giving it some.
   If you get what i mean.
   
   People seem happy with the raceland manifolds, from ones i seen they are poor build quality imo, they are relatively cheap, cam racing does them or try your look with a best offer on ebay.
   But it depends if you have your cat in your downpipe or under the car to if its worth getting one, if your lucky enough to have a 90bhp (cat under the car single plug ecu) then you will be fine, if you have a 98bhp (cat in downpipe 3 plug ecu) with the raceland you have to move your oil filter and other things.
   
   If you do have a 3 plug i would get a gmc 4-1 as you dont have to relocate the oild filter.
   
   Do you know how to tell if you have a 98 or 90 vtr? as some 2000 have either all go get a link of a thread i did.
3. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #3 13th April 2007, 08:53

   http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52052
   
   really basic how to suss if you have a 90 or 98 lol! Infact i am going to make a stiky on it as i am bored!
   
   edit made a stiky and then clicked post new thread, and because took me so long it asked me to log in again and then logged in and it had deleted it all!
4. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

   #4 13th April 2007, 09:39

   gmc 4-1 fits like a dream
   
   dont have to move oil filter
   
   and gives good gains to
5. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #5 13th April 2007, 09:45

   raceland is thin as fuck, doesnt fit well either, glows red, will eventually distort, crack and fall apart.
6. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #6 13th April 2007, 09:46

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by hesslevtr gmc 4-1 fits like a dream dont have to move oil filter and gives good gains to

   mine fits nicely but made my whole zorst system pull to the left very good build quality though
7. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #7 13th April 2007, 09:46

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by williamsvts raceland is thin as fuck, doesnt fit well either, glows red, will eventually distort, crack and fall apart.

   poo build quality i?
8. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #8 13th April 2007, 09:47

   as i posted on ssc
   
   imo, its just becasue its thin as fuck steel. in time it will keep hardening itself, distort adn eventually crack. people havent that long had them but give them time and there will be a lot of fucked 'kitkat-land' manifolds.
   
   this was a reply as to why a raceland was glowing red.
9. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #9 13th April 2007, 09:50

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by williamsvts as i posted on ssc imo, its just becasue its thin as fuck steel. in time it will keep hardening itself, distort adn eventually crack. people havent that long had them but give them time and there will be a lot of fucked 'kitkat-land' manifolds. this was a reply as to why a raceland was glowing red.

   awesome i have a gmc so
10. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #10 13th April 2007, 09:52

    lol, have you seen the difference between the manfolds?
    
    just dont drop your racelands when fitting them, or they will vibrate away down the street
11. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #11 13th April 2007, 09:55

    kit kat land lol
12. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #12 13th April 2007, 09:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts lol, have you seen the difference between the manfolds? just dont drop your racelands when fitting them, or they will vibrate away down the street

    richie has just getting one, and the tubes are not fush lol it felt nice and smooth and was shiney! did feel asthough could just squeeze the tubes though! But for the price he got it can you argue?
    either one of them for £130 or gmc £280 or something arnt they?
13. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #13 13th April 2007, 09:59

    i paid £230 for my GMC, get what you pay for though.
    you cna buy a brand new matiz for £6k though, i dont see everyone driving round in them?? lol
14. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #14 13th April 2007, 10:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts i paid £230 for my GMC, get what you pay for though. you cna buy a brand new matiz for £6k though, i dont see everyone driving round in them?? lol

    what are the supersprint manifolds like?
    
    Is yours stainless mate? mine is meant to be but i cant tell tbh! Its also badged as piper.
    
    
    Doesnt look stainless like
15. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #15 13th April 2007, 10:18

    mine is MS.
16. Andy Established Member Joined: Feb 2006 in a house Posts: 1818 A Rover

    #16 13th April 2007, 10:21

    are mild steel better?
17. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #17 13th April 2007, 10:22

    no difference in performance.
18. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #18 13th April 2007, 10:48

    mild steel is just cheaper to manufacture
19. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #19 13th April 2007, 12:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts mine is MS.

    how can i tell the difference???