Mot checks!

  1. #1
    ok so ive been looking at mot rules and regs because mine is in tomorrow and thought it might be a good idea to post this for future reference! this is what they will check for!

    BRAKES

    Inside the car
    Anti-lock braking system (if fitted) Warning lamp is checked for:
    • Function.
    • Sequence of operation. Footbrake
    • Reserve travel on the footbrake so that it does not go down to the floor
    • Pedal rubber not worn to excess
    • Correct operation of the servo assistance system.

    Reserve brake
    This could be a handbrake or a footbrake.
    Checked for reserve travel so that it does not reach the stops on application.
    The mountings will be checked for security and /or corrosion.

    Under bonnet checks
    • Master cylinder and servo unit are checked for fluid leaks with the engine on and the brakes applied.
    • Servo unit will be checked to ensure it is operating correctly.
    • Visible metal or flexible brake pipes will be checked for corrosion, condition, breakages or leaks.

    Under Vehicle checks
    With an assistant applying load to the
    footbrake:
    • Flexible brake pipes and any other metal brake pipes visible beneath the car are checked
    • Disks and drums checked for condition and contamination
    • Brake back plates and calliper securing devices are checked for condition and security
    • Condition of the brake pads will be checked if visible
    • An assistant operates the handbrake while the condition of the linkages and/or cables is checked.
    • On some vehicles there will be a brake compensating valve beneath the car which will need to be inspected for fluid leaks

    Brake performance check
    The performance of the front and rear brakes will be checked for efficiency and balance using specialised equipment.

    DOORS

    Both front doors must be capable of being opened from the inside and outside and all doors must latch securely.

    Tailgates, bootlids etc.

    All these items, including the tailboards and dropsides of trucks must be capable of being secured in the closed position.

    EMISSIONS

    These are checked using specialised equipment, the details of the check depending on the year that the vehicle was first used on the road. Excessive smoking is a reason for failure. Diesel emissions are checked by using a smoke meter.

    FUEL SYSTEM

    Any fuel leak will result in a fail. Checked under the bonnet and throughout the run of the fuel line from the fuel tank to the engine.
    • The fuel filler cap must fasten securely
    • The seal in the cap must not be torn, deteriorated or missing
    • No other defect should be present which could cause fuel to leak out.

    HORN

    • Operation.
    • Control should be easily reached by the driver.
    • Volume must be sufficiently audible to pedestrians and other vehicles.
    • The tone should not consist of a sequential multi-tone.

    LIGHTS

    All required lights are checked for:
    • Operation.
    • Condition.
    • Security.

    Side lights and headlamps:
    • Acceptable make/model.
    • Dip and aim must be within specified perameters Stop lights, indicators and hazard lights*
    • Acceptable make/model
    • Lights,indicators and hazard lights must not interfere with each other whilst in operation.
    • Indicators, stop lights and hazard warning lights function. Rear fog lamps**
    • Must be fitted to the centre or offside of the vehicle.
    • Tell-tale must work.
    • Must not be affected by other lamps and not be obscured.
    • Must be red.


    Number plate lamps

    All original lamps must be fitted and working.

    Rear reflectors
    There must be two reflectors fitted reasonably symmetrically, securely attached and not obscured.
    * Must be fitted to all vehicles first used on or after 1st April 1986, but if fitted, must be tested.
    ** Must be fitted to all vehicles first used on or after 1st April 1980.

    MIRRORS

    Not all mirrors on all vehicles are subject to Test, depending on the age of the vehicle. Those mirrors which must be checked must be:

    • Secure
    • Visible from the drivers seat
    • Not distorted or damaged so as to seriously impair the drivers view to the rear.


    REGISTRATION PLATES AND VIN* (Vehicle Identification Number)

    For registered vehicles the plate must be:
    • Present
    • Secure
    • Not faded, dirty or obscured
    • Be composed with correctly formed letters and spacing

    The VIN number must be
    • Permanently displayed
    • Consistent · Legible.

    * Required on all vehicles first used on or after 1st August 1980.


    SEAT BELTS

    Most vehicles after 1965 must have seat belts, irrespective of that requirement, all seat belts fitted to any vehicle must be inspected for:

    • Security of seat belt mountings and locking stalks
    • Security and operation of the locking/release mechanism
    • Condition of webbing
    • Retraction of the belt (it is permissable to manually feed it in).

    Notes:

    1 For technical reasons the inertia locking mechanism is not checked.
    2 On some vehicles the belt is attached to the seat, in which case the security of the seat to the vehicle would also constitute part of the seat belt check.


    SEATS

    • The driver's and the front passenger's seats must be secure
    • All seat backs must be securable in the upright position.


    STEERING

    Inside the car checks
    • Steering wheel and steering column:
    • Steering wheel condition
    • The steering wheel must be securely attached to the steering shaft
    • The upper bearings of the steering column are inspected for wear
    • The steering shaft is checked for excessive end float
    • Clamping bolts security
    • The split pins and locking nuts
    • The 'free play' in the steering
    • Flexible couplings and universal joints.

    Under the bonnet checks
    Vary according to the vehicle;
    Some of these items cannot be observed from under the bonnet on some makes and models. However in all cases checks
    will be made for:
    • The security of the steering rack or steering box and its mountings
    • Any discernible play in the steering joints
    • Swivel joints which form part of the steering system which can be readily inspected from under the bonnet will obviously be inspected.


    • Whilst the vehicle stands on special Swivel plates the wheels are turned from lock to lock and checked to ensure that wheels and tyres do not foul of either the structure of the vehicle or any brake pipes or hoses.
    • Wheel bearings are checked.
    • Steering rack gaiters/front outer constant velocity joint boots are examined.
    • Metal and rubber bushes are checked as

    Under vehicle checks
    • All the steering joints.
    • Power steering systems.
    • Security of attachment of the steering rack or steering box is checked both with respect to tightness of the nuts and bolts, and structural cracking or corrosion of the vehicle chassis where it is attached.
    • Also, split pins/locking nuts and other locking or retaining devices relate to steering components. Some cars have an element of rear wheel steering which is checked from beneath the car. The front suspension is checked, but also the rear for:
    • Excessive wear to Wheel bearings.
    • Condition of front drive shafts/CV joints.

    SUSPENSION

    Under bonnet checks
    • Upper suspension joints
    • Any other suspension components which
    can be inspected from beneath the bonnet

    Under vehicle checks
    Both the front and rear suspension are checked to ensure.
    • No split pins or nuts missing, no components broken or bent
    • Road springs function effectively, no excessive wear
    • Suspension joints function effectively, no excessive wear
    • Shock absorbers must not leak and must be secure (the vehicle will be 'bounced' by the Tester to check that they damp the springs adequately).

    Suspension is checked for wear by the assistant applying loads in various ways with the wheels jacked up whilst the Tester observes the result from beneath the vehicle.


    TYRES/WHEELS

    Tyre condition
    A failure with respect to tyre wear will result where:-
    The grooves of the tread pattern are not at least 1.6mm throughout a continuous band comprising:
    • Central 3/4 of the breadth of tread
    • Entire outer circumference of the tyre.

    Tyres must be correctly matched with regard to:
    • Type
    • Size
    • Structure
    • Location on the vehicle with respect to the axles.

    Also examined:
    • General condition of tyre
    • Condition of valve

    Tyres fail if they have serious cuts, bulges or other damage. The wear on the tyre is checked with a tyre tread depth gauge to ensure compliance. The tyres are examined to ensure that there is no fouling with any part of the vehicle.

    Note:
    The condition of the spare tyre is not part of the MOT.

    Wheel condition
    Inspection to reveal:
    • Damage
    • Distortion
    • Cracks
    • Distorted bead rims
    • How securely attached to the vehicle
    • No wheel-nuts or studs missing

    An externally fitted spare wheel or spare wheel carrier must not be so insecure that it is likely to fall off.

    VEHICLE STRUCTURE

    Body condition and security
    • The vehicle body must not insecure or displaced so as to constitute a risk of loss of control of the vehicle when driven, or a danger to other road users.
    • There must be no dangerous sharp edges or projections caused by corrosion or damage

    Corrosion
    A vehicle can fail with respect to corrosion for:
    • Excessive corrosion in a 'prescribed area' - within 30 cms of certain components, e.g. brakes, steering, suspension, seat belt mountings etc.
    • Excessive corrosion in a 'prescribed area', but which is likely to adversely affect the vehicle's brakes or steering.

    Note
    'Excessive corrosion' can mean a hole or a significantly weakened structure.

    WINDSCREEN

    The inspection has to ascertain all items affecting the driver's view of the road: the condition of the windscreen, the wipers and washers.

    hope this comes in handy.... i dont think this has been done before and apologise if it has!

    james
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  2. #2
    PM a moderator mate and get them to make it a sticky.

    Have some rep too

    Good thread and very useful.
  3. #3
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    PM a moderator mate and get them to make it a sticky.

    Have some rep too

    Good thread and very useful.
    Yeah asap

    nice thread mate, v useful

    PicsComingSoon RB
  4. #4
    Whats this about though...

    Tyres must be correctly matched with regard to:
    • Type
    • Size
    • Structure
    • Location on the vehicle with respect to the axles.

    The tyres tyes DONT have to match! Like i have two of one brand on the front and two of another brand on the back, so thats a fail according to that?
  5. #5
    jsut use the mot manual

    http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual/contents.htm

    thats what i had to conform to when i was an mot tester
  6. #6
    Yep so the guide that has been put up in this thread is WRONG!
  7. #7
    No, the tyres are all to be the same size etc regardless of brand.
    They should be Similar Specs, ie speed ratings and load ratings etc, and all the same size.
    As far as i'm aware, Brand or tread pattern doesn't matter.
  8. #8
    do you need to have a spare tyre for an mot?
  9. #9
    No, However if its there, and its flat or bald, it will fail AFAIK
  10. #10
    awsome stuff mines so soon pretty worried
  11. #11
    Don't worry, mine just passed
    No spare wheel or anything too!
  12. #12
    just a querie on this. where it says the mot test checks function for A.B.S do u mean that the warning light is functioning or the actual A.B.S system?
    jus wanted to check as i had my vtr M.O.T'd on the 01/09/07 and on the 09/09/07 there was an accident in front of me on the motorway. which i would've been able to stop 4, had the wheels not locked up.
    as a consiquence i no longer own a saxo vtr.
    could someone let me kno please?
  13. #13
    What happened Doc? They only have to check that the warning light is working and doesn't indicate any fault, they don't physically check the ABS system. You should pester the garage though and tell them what happened, maybe threaten them a bit, might give you some compo!
  14. #14
    This is pretty much helpful for me seeing as mine runs out Jan08. Went for servicing last week and was told my exhaust was blowing in the middle. Could that fail the MOT?

    :/
  15. #15
    Yeah may well fail, not all places will pick up on it though!
  16. #16
    i know u can put ur foot brake in several times while ur engines off to check ur brake fluid if its ok it shud go hard and go soft again after ur turn the engine on
  17. #17
    I've also just found out that a car will pass with no drivers door window...
    I've been given a free car and will MOT it before fixing it up, and it'll pass like it...

    Pointless info really.. lol
  18. #18
    ahhh mot, i officially hate them grrr,
    put me wee saxo in for it 2days ago and said to the guy i need a bit of work on my handbrake, so he done it put it for the mot and it came back with loads to be done ended up...

    - new brake pads
    - new handbrake cable
    - new shoes + adjusters
    - work done on handbrake rachet
    - new mid-section exhaust
    - new passengerside susspension arm + bracket to the antiroll bar
    - replacement of numberplate bulbs
    - realignmet of headlights
    - new piping round fuel filter
    - new tyre

    £350 later my saxo is mot'd, selling it v.soon aswell for a grand, makes me sick haha, i was truely ass invaded with no foreplay....

    rant over :o)
  19. #19
    The MOT cetificate is only issued to say that at the time that the certificate was issued, the vehicle met the requirements to pass the test.
    You could get the MOT certificate, say at 10.00 and get down the road at say 10.05 and get pulled by the police for a brakelight bulb not working. Saying it's just been MOT'd won't mean a thing.
  20. #20
    hmmmm Good stuff

    my M.O.T is not until july but i'll think i shall get my mate from the local garage to do a pre check

    I dont fancy knocking out £350 all in one go
  21. #21
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by riggsy View Post
    Whats this about though...

    Tyres must be correctly matched with regard to:
    • Type
    • Size
    • Structure
    • Location on the vehicle with respect to the axles.

    The tyres tyes DONT have to match! Like i have two of one brand on the front and two of another brand on the back, so thats a fail according to that?
    actually the tyre types DO have to match.
    i would love to see you go to a MOT with radial and crossply tyres mixed on the same axle they will hahaha at you.
    tyre type does not mean manufacture.
    as long as its correct type [crossply,radial etc] and size.
    search for different tyre types next time google etc.
  22. #22
    very useful thank you very much
  23. #23
    very useful, as my car is currently off the road and mot is end of this month lol i have a lot of work to do
  24. #24
    4. Tyres
    Tyres must have a tread depth of at least 1.6mm and have no cuts, cracks, bulges, splits or damage to the side walls and tread. Although the spare wheel is not included in the MOT, it must be legal if you have one so while you are checking your tyres, remember the spare.

    The two front tyres can be a different type and size to the rear or vice versa, but they cannot be different if on the same axle so do check this.



    taken from http://www.autowirez.co.uk/blog/diy-...on-check-list/

    got my MOT this next week
  25. #25
    You can check your old MOT's and see when your current one expires on
    http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/
  26. #26
    does the air bag warning light come under the mot if its flashing?
  27. #27
    Is it an MOT failure if the 3rd Brake light isn't there?
  28. #28
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bmxtommo View Post
    does the air bag warning light come under the mot if its flashing?
    my airbag light was on wen i had my MOT and it still passed
  29. #29
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bmxtommo View Post
    does the air bag warning light come under the mot if its flashing?
    if air bag warning light flashes its an mot failure
  30. #30
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Fordy_87 View Post
    my airbag light was on wen i had my MOT and it still passed
    shouldnt have as if an air bag light i on it should be an mot failure
  31. #31
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by danzman1991 View Post
    Is it an MOT failure if the 3rd Brake light isn't there?
    mot rules stipulate you have to have 2 working brake lights.

    the reason they have a high rise brake light is so if one brake light fails you still got two.
  32. #32
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by littleracer View Post
    shouldnt have as if an air bag light i on it should be an mot failure

    not true. only light on dash which is checked is the abs light.
  33. #33
    Rear reflectors
    There must be two reflectors fitted reasonably symmetrically, securely attached and not obscured.
    * Must be fitted to all vehicles first used on or after 1st April 1986, but if fitted, must be tested.
    ** Must be fitted to all vehicles first used on or after 1st April 1980.

    My wifes 206 has got lexus rear lights with no reflectors fitted and hasn't failed an mot for the last 2 years like it, lucky bugger- i payed £150 for a garrented pass and still failed. some people have all the luck!!!
  34. #34
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sean View Post
    not true. only light on dash which is checked is the abs light.

    They only check basics, like exhaust emissions, seatbelts, cracks in windows & headlights etc, horn, braking system etc... they arent fussed on the warning lights on the dash. my car just passed it's m.o.t with the engine management light on & the car temp gage is constantly up & down making the fan come on every 2 mins lol. bloody pain in the arse car!!
  35. #35
    I never knew there were so many checks.

    Mine isn't due till Jan!
  36. #36
    So in thoery, my knocking noise shouldnt be a serious issue with the suspension as it has only done 20 miles since MOT. In theory....
  37. #37
    quality post mate got my MOT tomorrow and this will hopefully now allow me to save on a few things - class stuff thanks!
  38. #38
    thanks a lot mate very usefull.
  39. #39
    Fuck about thats a long ol' list f stuff they do in an mot lol.

    Very useful thread tho . Thumbs up for that one
  40. #40
    mine cost me £230 to get it through the m.o.t and that was including £40 for the m.o.t and £40 for a new cat mate charged me £150 for doing the work and parts
  41. #41
    I got my MOT in two weeks and am thinking of buying alloys just before. Was just wondering do you have take insurance details to your MOT to show youve declared your mods?
  42. #42
    just had my M.O.T today, failed as the car was sitting on the bumpstops on the rear, official title, sufficient clerance between rear axle and bumpstops.

    so i said to the M.O.T guy, look i have got two 2tonne jacks, a full tool kit, de-cat pipe bags of shopping and an axle stand in the boot, and asked him if i took it all out would he re-test it, as it would be about 10-20mm higher, so i took every thing out and he passed it there and then! wooohoo!
  43. #43
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by paddy88 View Post
    just had my M.O.T today, failed as the car was sitting on the bumpstops on the rear, official title, sufficient clerance between rear axle and bumpstops.

    so i said to the M.O.T guy, look i have got two 2tonne jacks, a full tool kit, de-cat pipe bags of shopping and an axle stand in the boot, and asked him if i took it all out would he re-test it, as it would be about 10-20mm higher, so i took every thing out and he passed it there and then! wooohoo!
    Bargain!

    Mine failed on that but it was genuinely just too low lol...
    They had it on 3 wheels just getting it on the ramp..

    Oops lol..

    Just MOT'd the Audi today though, Failed on the headlights being too low - Previous owner fitted angels, which i don't like.. Just bought some standard lights and getting a re-test tomorrow.
    What a hassle!
  44. #44
    yer my mate had that problem with his angel eye on his 106 gti, hope your audi passed today maty!
  45. #45
    lol.
    It didn't - Didn't go back due to dodgy headlight.
    Should have another here for friday though!

    Then re-test and sorted

    Cheers
  46. #46
    Hi peeps, got an m.o.t to contend with,tomorrow if it can be sqeezed in,if not next wednesday, as far as I can tell on the lighting side I need a new number plate bulb, but how do I get the lamp out. Reckless_b
  47. #47
    i think he means the tyres cant be of different types i.e cross ply and radials.
  48. #48
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DavidKent View Post
    No, However if its there, and its flat or bald, it will fail AFAIK
    The condition of anything that isn't part of the MOT won't cause it to fail. For example, you could hav a rear wiper with no wiper blade in, becuase the rear wiper isn't a part of the MOT it won't fail.
  49. #49
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mullen View Post
    I got my MOT in two weeks and am thinking of buying alloys just before. Was just wondering do you have take insurance details to your MOT to show youve declared your mods?
    You need no proof of insurance or ownership for an MOT
  50. #50
    Couple other things on this thread, can't be arsed to quote again...

    The high rise (third) brake light has to work to pass, all brake lights fitted have to work.

    The ABS light must come on with the ignition switched on, then go out within a reasonable time with the engine running. So taking the bulb out won't work lol
  51. #51
    Yeah Brake lights definately have to work of they're there.

    I think the Rear wiper thing has changed then, because that used to be a fail - I've noticed that on several occasions.

    I think its hit and miss on where you go with some things tbh, if there's no bulb in the ABS, 9 times out of 10, on a saxo, they'll just assume it doesn't even have ABS.
  52. #52
    Yh, most testers aren't that vidulent... It's surprising how many little things you can get away with. Mirrors for example, you need an O/S mirror but it doesn't matter if you don't have any glass in the N/S mirror. You just need the O/S one + one other mirror, centre or side.
  53. #53
    cheers for that mate, your a star!
  54. #54
    MOT time today, testers a good mate ao it should pass well, rattleing cat though
  55. #55
    Thats some great info there.

    Cheers i will remeber to have a look at this before my next mot.
  56. #56
    jesus christ! cant believe how much gets checked. im crappin it now
  57. #57
    Phew, car passed MOT, really didnt think it wud. Interesting point tho was the airbag light was flashing up, they mentioned it to me but it didnt fail. hmm All wud be gud if i didnt have to get the damn flywheel skimmed, damned clutch replacment!
  58. #58
    Do smoked headlights fail the test?
  59. #59
    Nope tis all good on smoked lights
  60. #60
    lol 50 quid and a bottle of whiskey that all it takes, then any bad points i get him to tell me and i carry out the workk myself, saves loads of munay!
  61. #61
    Good post mate, you dont even think about the lights on your reg! crazy, good knowledge to know
  62. #62
    can some1 confirm if its a fail, with and engine conversion not declared??

    cheers
  63. #63
    umm i got mine on 26th next month , looking at that lot seriously gunna think about buying a new car lol
    cheers
  64. #64
    Is it a fail if your windscreen washers do not work?
  65. #65
    Anyone please?
  66. #66
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lukedorritt View Post
    Anyone please?
    Yes, front one's anyway.
  67. #67
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by scot-ish View Post
    can some1 confirm if its a fail, with and engine conversion not declared??

    cheers
    Nope, engine conversion has nothing to do with the MOT.
  68. #68
    thats alot of check :L
    if i take the middle silencer box out of my exhaust will that sit pass MOT?
  69. #69
    You are spot on, tyre types do matter, in fact years ago there was a warning posted in an ad on TV saying cross plies and radials do not match not on the same axle cross ply radial = death. Some Mot testers are over zealous in their approach to testing vehicles solely depends on who they are and who they work for, take the well known ones that advertise exhausts tyres etc they will fail your car guaranteed whilst other garages would pass the same car... f..k I still sh.t myself at Mot time ...
  70. #70
    The magazine car mechanics donkeys years ago featured a 'Pass your MOT test ' nothing has changed from that day to this no engine fault is taken into consideration and never has been it has to do with law and the requirements of safety i.e. a car without a bumper can pass the Mot it would only fail if there were protruding edges that pedestrians could get caught up or spiked on. I had a mini cooper [the Isigonis one] some years ago done up like a xmas tree bumpers removed and this passed the mot for years n years crap car though crank shaft snapped clean in half ..
  71. #71
    now lads wud saxo fail mot on front fog lights not working??cheers
  72. #72
    great info here mate
  73. #73
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by matty2200 View Post
    now lads wud saxo fail mot on front fog lights not working??cheers
    yeah. all fitted lights have to work and be in good condition.
  74. #74
    MOT tomorrow...

    Got a bloody chip hole in the front drivers side headlight...failureeeeee
  75. #75
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BoiRacer View Post
    thats alot of check :L
    if i take the middle silencer box out of my exhaust will that sit pass MOT?
    Mine failed on being excessively loud today because of just that.

    Had straight through from cat to standard backbox.

    Didn't fail on anything else or even get an advisory, just the noise. I swear they just want the extra £30 for the retest!!
  76. #76
    Try get your car mot'd at a council garage, they dont do repairs so wont try and fail you for something you can make money out of... Also alot more leanient towards small problems.
  77. #77
    UPDATE towbars now come into an MOT it has got to be safe and secure if it is attached to a vehicle, you may bot even use it but its still now law to be safe.
  78. #78
    Just wondering, if you have the boot and rear seats stripped out, Will it fail?
  79. #79
    Im bought a VTS from a garage 6 weeks ago and took her for the M.O.T today... I aint too chuffed with the results...

    ABS warning light does not illumitate

    Both CV boots off

    Both CV joints excessivly worn

    All Pads less than 1.5mm thick

    Exhaust emissions carbon monoxide after 2nd fast idle excessive

    O/S rear arch excessivly corroded

    Parking Brake effieciecy below requirements....

    And for the Advisory note...

    Front Disks scored

    Rear Disks Pitted

    Center Exhaust has minor leak

    O/S front lower sspension arm has play in pin/bush

    Rear radius arms both have play in pin/bush...


    So there it is, i think its guna cost me a few bob to get it sorted.

    Is there anythin i can do to get the garage to pay half towards it as they told me it was mechanicly sound and well looked after... They say its my problem now, this cant be be right can it?
  80. #80
    Very useful guide glad its on here
  81. #81
    wow never knew they checked that much!!!!
  82. #82
    "Note:
    The condition of the spare tyre is not part of the MOT.....An externally fitted spare wheel or spare wheel carrier must not be so insecure that it is likely to fall off."

    Seems a reliable source from MOTRules & Regs wesbite.

    http://www.motester.co.uk/CarOwnersG...tIsTested.aspx
  83. #83
    Just something i've found to help make an MOT a bit cheaper! http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/travel/cheap-mot

    Main advice seems to be to get the MOT done by a council test centre. They don't do any kind of repairs so have no interest in failing you to make a bit of extra cash.
    A lot of MOT's ive had done have failed on loads of little things, that if I went to a council centre I don't think would have failed! Worth a read anyway
  84. #84
    Cold air intakes on the morrettes? would they fail it?

    The center lights are oppositional as driving lights :s
  85. #85
    good guide dude
  86. #86
    I noticed about fog lamps. It says its mandatory for one rear fog lamp to work which is either in the centre or offside. My leftside fogs are out, that won't result in a fail, will it?
  87. #87
    thanks man iv got mine in for mot day after tomoro
  88. #88
    Having a tree air freshner on your rear view mirror is a fail aswell
  89. #89
    if the torsion bar is bend a bite is it a fail!
  90. #90
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by motty View Post
    Having a tree air freshner on your rear view mirror is a fail aswell
    Rather than fail the car i think they'd just take it off and tell you.
  91. #91
    my saxo failed bcoz it had no horn lol
  92. #92
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Unlucky-Saxo-owner View Post
    I noticed about fog lamps. It says its mandatory for one rear fog lamp to work which is either in the centre or offside. My leftside fogs are out, that won't result in a fail, will it?
    only drivers side works on saxos?
  93. #93
    I have my MOT tomorow morning, I reckon its going to fail, but I don't see how
  94. #94
    good help on wheels thanks.
  95. #95
    Handy info guys i never thought to look into it before, ive got mine coming up next month, but the Sax hasnt let me down in 3 years so should be ok

    www.gatwickcarandvanrental.com
  96. #96
    nice thread
    very helpful
  97. #97
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DavidKent View Post
    No, However if its there, and its flat or bald, it will fail AFAIK
    the spare tyre is not part of the mot, if the spare tyre is flat or bald etc then it is only an advisory to say that the spare tyre cannot be used, but under the road traffic act the spare tyre should be usable and correct
  98. #98
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by motty View Post
    Having a tree air freshner on your rear view mirror is a fail aswell
    only if it obscures your view of the road and is bigger than 40mm which is in zone 'B' of the windscreen, the tester is being picky if he fails it for that
  99. #99
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Unlucky-Saxo-owner View Post
    I noticed about fog lamps. It says its mandatory for one rear fog lamp to work which is either in the centre or offside. My leftside fogs are out, that won't result in a fail, will it?
    no, as long as the fog light works in the center or offside position then that is correct
  100. #100
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by littleracer View Post
    if air bag warning light flashes its an mot failure
    nope, the airbag light is not part of the mot, and is only an advisory if its on or flashing
  101. #101
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by r_i_c_h_1 View Post
    Couple other things on this thread, can't be arsed to quote again...

    The high rise (third) brake light has to work to pass, all brake lights fitted have to work.

    The ABS light must come on with the ignition switched on, then go out within a reasonable time with the engine running. So taking the bulb out won't work lol
    for the third brake light, it only fails if the tester can prooved that its wired up and is ment to work
  102. #102
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lukedorritt View Post
    Is it a fail if your windscreen washers do not work?
    yes, if they provide insufficient washer liquid its a fail
  103. #103
    i was just wondering ive had my abs servo taken off and have now rerouted all my brake hoses and upgraded to stainless steel jobbies and took the abs light out the dash but i didnt take out the cabling or sensors, would this then class as an mot fail or not
  104. #104
    if you have unpluged the light they will more than likely think it doesnt have abs but on the off chace they see a sensor im not sure how they would go about it. its abit risky :/
  105. #105
    I've just put mine in for mot but took the spare out will it fail for loose wheel holder then?
  106. #106
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by george0123 View Post
    I've just put mine in for mot but took the spare out will it fail for loose wheel holder then?
    As long as it's not dragging across the ground lol, then no
  107. #107
    Thanks man, Mines due 12th of April..
  108. #108
    quick question...airbag light flashing is definatly a failure?

    mot soon and got a momo wheel on a airbag light flashing lol
  109. #109
    dont think they can fail you for an airbag light will be just down as an advisory i would of thought although they can for an abs light
  110. #110
    air bag not a fail mate
  111. #111
    thanks mate could come in handy
  112. #112
    had my car mot'd yesterday did not fail on air bag light or not having a third brake light... one word of caution tho always run wheel arch liners!!!!!! i dont so they noticed a hole under my ecu which failed and now i need welding done lol better safe than sorry i presume but he said if i had arch liners he wouldnt have noticed it
  113. #113
    i have a blue bulb fitted above my number plate was on when i bought car will this pass or does it have to be a normal one?
  114. #114
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeffchiz View Post
    had my car mot'd yesterday did not fail on air bag light or not having a third brake light... one word of caution tho always run wheel arch liners!!!!!! i dont so they noticed a hole under my ecu which failed and now i need welding done lol better safe than sorry i presume but he said if i had arch liners he wouldnt have noticed it
    Good shout about the inner arches!, i'd better put mine back on, cba welding the small hole, cars 15 years old neway

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bucko1987 View Post
    i have a blue bulb fitted above my number plate was on when i bought car will this pass or does it have to be a normal one?
    i think you need a normal bulb mate
  115. #115
    for the condition of lights, if the rear light has a slight but not noticeable crack which doesnt affect light operation, will it fail?

    jonesy
  116. #116
    If one number Plate light is out is that a fail or advisory
  117. #117
    just a querie on this. where it says the mot test checks function for A.B.S do u mean that the warning light is functioning or the actual A.B.S system?
    jus wanted to check as i had my vtr M.O.T'd on the 01/09/07 and on the 09/09/07 there was an accident in front of me on the motorway. which i would've been able to stop 4, had the wheels not locked up.
  118. #118
    Great help there cheers
  119. #119
    as you can see im an absolute newbie to this owners club, ive recently put a 4-2-1 branch manifold on my 2000 furio n ive heard it may fail cos ive got no cat anymore.

    any info much appreciated
  120. #120
    Very useful thanks
  121. #121
    nice one - mines up for MOT this month so very handy for me - cheers
  122. #122
    question about MOT, would my car go through MOT without the back seats or does it need them to pass?
  123. #123
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lodger View Post
    lol 50 quid and a bottle of whiskey that all it takes, then any bad points i get him to tell me and i carry out the workk myself, saves loads of munay!
    snap. only no whiskey
  124. #124
    hi guys is a loud exhaust gonna fail the mot test? just changed rear back box to a 4" stainless sounds very loud noticed it has no middle box will i fail but it has a cat? sounds like a bloody scooby lol
  125. #125
    just have a look at the manual you will be surprised
  126. #126
    great help thanks mot due soon, so nervous
  127. #127
    Can your car fail from a water leak from the washer bottle it still sprays on the screen think the pipes split somewhere just annoying I've swapped the pump and bottle and still does it
  128. #128
    Nice, thanks!
  129. #129
    Rear lights tinted? would they fail if they are tinted so much?? like if you couldnt see the reflectors or somthing.
  130. #130
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chez99 View Post
    Rear lights tinted? would they fail if they are tinted so much?? like if you couldnt see the reflectors or somthing.
    any amount of tint cancels the E mark and is a a fail.
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  131. #131
    okiiii i'll change them once the time comes cheers.
  132. #132
    does it matter how low ur car is for its mot ?? mine 90mm on back and 60mm front will that pass ?? cheers chris
  133. #133
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by UrPeanarse View Post
    does it matter how low ur car is for its mot ?? mine 90mm on back and 60mm front will that pass ?? cheers chris
    As long as it isn't catching anything then you will be ok
  134. #134
    cheers mate , needed that , its proberly the best piece of writing on here! and now i know my saxos going to fail haha
  135. #135
    Got mine in the morning, have no idea how she will do. C'mon you beast!
  136. #136
    MOT next month, not had time to install my new PAS pump, is it a fail for it not to be working if its installed?
  137. #137
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    MOT next month, not had time to install my new PAS pump, is it a fail for it not to be working if its installed?
    Yeah fail. If its fitted it has to be in full working order.
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  138. #138
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bedford126 View Post
    Yeah fail. If its fitted it has to be in full working order.
    bollocks, easy job to do? Will I need to jack the car up or not as my drive isn't flat or anywhere near flat lol
  139. #139
    Not the hardest job just a bit faffy with the spanners. Jacking the car up makes it easier mate. Just remember to bleed the system after going from lock to lock until no bubbles appear in the reservoir
  140. #140
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bedford126 View Post
    Not the hardest job just a bit faffy with the spanners. Jacking the car up makes it easier mate. Just remember to bleed the system after going from lock to lock until no bubbles appear in the reservoir
    cheers, might have a bash this week, I have an old bottle of PAS fluid which is probs a year old. Does it retain water like brake fluid or will it be ok to use?
  141. #141
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mattsproject View Post
    hi guys is a loud exhaust gonna fail the mot test? just changed rear back box to a 4" stainless sounds very loud noticed it has no middle box will i fail but it has a cat? sounds like a bloody scooby lol
    bit late now but still thought i would mention, pretty sure the sound limit is like 90db
  142. #142
    Come live on the Isle of Man.. No MOT's for cars here. Just HGV's.
  143. #143
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jamie281093 View Post
    bit late now but still thought i would mention, pretty sure the sound limit is like 90db
    No sound limit for mot.
  144. #144
    This thread is a big help cheers for putting it ip absolutely dreading tomorrow
  145. #145
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by IrishSaxoMan97 View Post
    how much is a 1.6 vtr to insure at 16 1/2 provisional just an enquirie ive got one but havent checked yet
    9MillionPounds


    Look on provisional marmalade or just run a quote with you as secondary driver with provisional licence.

  146. #146
    Or don't bother because you won't get a quote on most sites being under 17 anyway
  147. #147
    My car is due MOT in July... seems long but getting worried when something little goes wrong!
  148. #148
    Hi guys, I have a project saxo I am doing up. Wondering if anyone knows if this will be an mot failure....

    Hard to describe without a pic but...

    Someone has previously jacked up the car both sides like inbetween jacking point and chassis leg, just behind front wheel arch. They have crushed part of the body underneath where there is shaped metal and some plastic gromits.

    Over time it has now rusted and rotting away.

    Does anyone know what this part of the underbody is for and if it will effect mot.

    Cheers

    Ross
  149. #149
    Yes it will fail(although pics would be good)its 30cm away from a load bearing point,I know exactly where you mean as mine corroded there.The rubber grommets are for drainage they often get blocked leading to water just sitting there.
  150. #150
    thanks mate, yeah I will try get some pics up. did you repair yours?
  151. #151
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RossiBaker View Post
    thanks mate, yeah I will try get some pics up. did you repair yours?
    Yeah I had the section cut out then welded.
  152. #152
    nice one, im gonna do the same. just found another forum about same thing, apparently its a jacking point (just not a very good one). I suppose it doesn't have to be the same shape as before as long as its solid!
  153. #153
    MAF Sensor?
  154. #154
    If your car is regularly serviced, you generally have nothing to worry about
  155. #155
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KieranHopkins View Post
    MAF Sensor?
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KieranHopkins View Post
    If your car is regularly serviced, you generally have nothing to worry about
    I completely agree, However i think you're in the wrong post?
  156. #156
    My MOT is due in October and my Power Steering doesnt always kick in when I start it. It can take a good couple of mins to kick in, is this a new pump job?
    Thanks
  157. #157
    Don't think a dodgy pump will fail , just a leak
  158. #158
    A faulty powersteering pump can fail if it bad enought
  159. #159
    Nice guide on MOT part. Just parted with a chunk of cash to get parts done on me saxo making claims that it had no advisers on MOT done in May. Yet has had full set of brake discs and pads done front and back and a bunch of other stuff. Only just got the car. How would one actually make a compliant and look at getting part of the funds back paid on the car parts and get the car dealer to refund or make a complaint against?
  160. #160
    Out of interest how much does it cost to get the pads and discs done all together roughly ?


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  161. #161
    Something like this in the boot would be a fail? i'm in doubt because i don't think it's a sealed battery hence it would need to be in a box? Thanks to whoever clarifies that.

  162. #162
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tomparker95 View Post
    Out of interest how much does it cost to get the pads and discs done all together roughly ?


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    £30-40 depending on brands, if you go to a garage it'll obvs include labour
  163. #163
    I use to work at a ford dealership and seat belts were surprisingly a common fail for the mot! As well as wind screen wipers! All hail the saxo!!! Good old citreon!!