superchip or no chip

  1. Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Middlesbrough Posts: 1186 mazda 3 mps
    #1
    got my 90bhp vtr... decat'd, proper induction kit and cams.
    thinking of a next step in gettin it chipped!
    anyone had there rev limiter raised?
    whats a average price i should pay?
    anyone had any bad time with it done?
    is it worth getting done?
  2. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2006 Wishaw United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7326 Nissan 350z
    #2
    have you had it remapped
  3. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #3
    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85860
  4. Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Middlesbrough Posts: 1186 mazda 3 mps
    #4
    nope no remap. id love to get it on the rolling road and get it mapped like that and actually see what power it has! how much do you think that costs?
  5. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi
    #5
    superchips are a wastte of time, cost about £330, when for an extra £120 you can have the car mapped properly.
  6. Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Middlesbrough Posts: 1186 mazda 3 mps
    #6
    wasnt thnking it was going to cost around the £450 mark like to be honest!
    mate of mine had his series 1 rs turbo mapped, he was gettin 200brake with little mod's, i know he paid only £180 !
  7. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #7
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dannygxx View Post
    wasnt thnking it was going to cost around the £450 mark like to be honest!
    mate of mine had his series 1 rs turbo mapped, he was gettin 200brake with little mod's, i know he paid only £180 !
    turbos are different usually! As are diesels, and different car manufactueres etc...
  8. Established Member Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1400
    #8
    cams wont work properly without a re-map
  9. Newbie Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 1
    #9
    i got fast road cam nd pulley on my vtr, just had a superchip dun. it hasnt made any difference! should i get my £300 bak??????????????
  10. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux
    #10
    yes....
  11. Established Member Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1400
    #11
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by si_tart View Post
    i got fast road cam nd pulley on my vtr, just had a superchip dun. it hasnt made any difference! should i get my £300 bak??????????????
    yes! it would be better to get an RR and an appropriate re-map than a generic chip
  12. Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Middlesbrough Posts: 1186 mazda 3 mps
    #12
    im in the dielema by either selling my car and gettin a series 2 rs turbo or modifying mine further. pound per brake thinking a rs is going to be a more logical 1.6 racer even though my love of saxo's as ive owned 3vtr's n 1vts
  13. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #13
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dannygxx View Post
    im in the dielema by either selling my car and gettin a series 2 rs turbo or modifying mine further. pound per brake thinking a rs is going to be a more logical 1.6 racer even though my love of saxo's as ive owned 3vtr's n 1vts
    do you race for slips?
  14. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #14
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by si_tart View Post
    i got fast road cam nd pulley on my vtr, just had a superchip dun. it hasnt made any difference! should i get my £300 bak??????????????
    should have done more research doh!
  15. Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Middlesbrough Posts: 1186 mazda 3 mps
    #15
    dont race for slips but i love racing. around my area saxo drivers love to race saxo drivers!
  16. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #16
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dannygxx View Post
    dont race for slips but i love racing. around my area saxo drivers love to race saxo drivers!
    obviously the sarcasm was lost there lol!
  17. Established Member Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1400
    #17
    rs turbo will be a bag of rust unless you pay £££££

    saxos are better drivers cars than fords any day imo!
  18. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux
    #18
    Quote:
    should have done more research doh!
    come on ryan. if youve not been on a forum when would you know chips are poo
  19. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #19
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bullit View Post
    come on ryan. if youve not been on a forum when would you know chips are poo
    forums dont mean anything, i personally wouldnt spend £300 on a mod without doing proper research into it first.
  20. Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Middlesbrough Posts: 1186 mazda 3 mps
    #20
    lol yer i see the sarcisim now ha. lot of 1.6's that keep up with or go beyond a vt*. v-tec's etc. i wrote a fair few cars of now and insurance is catching back up with me. thinking of big bhp gains either sticking with saxo's or goin elsewhere. the worlds my oyster well with 1.6's they are ha.
  21. Established Member Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1400
    #21
    turbo it!

    they wont know what hit them! (literally if you write it off)
  22. Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Middlesbrough Posts: 1186 mazda 3 mps
    #22
    thought about it long and hard lol about turbo'n it but it definatly came to the conclusion not to, as i pulled over lil_dirty_pugga in his white 106 gti turbo and the amount of oil what was pissing out of the bottom made me reconsider, even though i think i fell in love with that 106.
  23. Established Member Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1400
    #23
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dannygxx View Post
    thought about it long and hard lol about turbo'n it but it definatly came to the conclusion not to, as i pulled over lil_dirty_pugga in his white 106 gti turbo and the amount of oil what was pissing out of the bottom made me reconsider, even though i think i fell in love with that 106.
    well thats a mechanical faualt rather than the turbo fault! it dont mean they are not worth it!

    the TU5JP4 engine can be tuned up too 400 bhp with the right amount of ££££££
  24. Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Middlesbrough Posts: 1186 mazda 3 mps
    #24
    yes i know, mechanical faults. just leads me to belive problems and more problems. i use my car day to day, i couldnt afford not to be where i needed to be. big bhp's are probly more prone to un-reliabilities. i need the best of both worlds.
  25. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #25
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dannygxx View Post
    yes i know, mechanical faults. just leads me to belive problems and more problems. i use my car day to day, i couldnt afford not to be where i needed to be. big bhp's are probly more prone to un-reliabilities. i need the best of both worlds.
    get a throttle bodied 16v lump then
  26. Established Member Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1400
    #26
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85 View Post
    get a throttle bodied 16v lump then
    raaar!
  27. Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Middlesbrough Posts: 1186 mazda 3 mps
    #27
    vts throttle bodies, what type of bhp gains from them like?
    would they be a straight fit... when i wrote my vts and selling it of in spares, alot of people were asking me for my injector;s for there vtr's, does this really make a differance?
  28. Established Member Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1400
    #28
    no! the injectors will make no difference unless the ECU is telling them to squirt more!

    TB's and a nice lairy cam will give you circa BHP gains equivialnt to forced induction
  29. Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Middlesbrough Posts: 1186 mazda 3 mps
    #29
    o yeah. i definatly need more bhp gains soon. wednesday night.. cruise night around here. up incoming months want my car to be a real sleeper untill a unleash it ha !
  30. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #30
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by doubledavies View Post
    no! the injectors will make no difference unless the ECU is telling them to squirt more!

    TB's and a nice lairy cam will give you circa BHP gains equivialnt to forced induction
    it will be under the power of forced induction! depending on your budget a Tb/cammed 16v will hit 160-180bhp (180 needing forgies etc.. in most cases)

    BUT the noise! thats so good it can make grown men empty their nuts from 400yards!