Mocal oil cooler related question.....*updated....more help needed pleaseeeee*

1. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

   #1 5th April 2011, 19:36

   Guys im looking at fitting a Mocal 13 row engine cooler kit. Now On my engine the radiator top hose has two pipes coming off that connect on the oil filter housing (heat exchanger or something??)
   
   Now Do i have to swap this hose for the old type without the two other hoses coming off or does the sandwich plate fit over the top of the current oil filter housing??? Im a little confused and dont understand this at the minute.
   
   Thanks in advance....
2. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #2 5th April 2011, 19:37

   Top hose changing init.. As the mocal plate doesn't have the coolant circulating like the heat exchanger does.
3. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #3 5th April 2011, 19:43

   You need a 106 gti top hose (doesn't have the two hose take-off)
   
   Then fit mocal as normal and job done!
4. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

   #4 5th April 2011, 19:48

   Bollocks......just ordered the one with the two hoses coming off!!
   
   Thanks guys
5. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #5 5th April 2011, 19:50

   Oooopppppssss - ideally you'll want to ditch the oem fans to give you the room to fit it comfortably in the widemouth of the bumper
6. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #6 5th April 2011, 19:50

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by raunchz Oooopppppssss - ideally you'll want to ditch the oem fans to give you the room to fit it comfortably in the widemouth of the bumper

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7. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #7 5th April 2011, 19:59

   Is niiiiice
8. user_28362 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 5306 911 Turbo

   #8 5th April 2011, 21:27

   I have just fitted a mocal with the thermostatic plate. I have not removed the old oil exchanger plate. I have left it all as it was & just bolted the new one on top.
   
   It all seems to work fine the oil temp needle stays dead center of the gauge.
9. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

   #9 5th April 2011, 22:20

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jonathon5 I have just fitted a mocal with the thermostatic plate. I have not removed the old oil exchanger plate. I have left it all as it was & just bolted the new one on top. It all seems to work fine the oil temp needle stays dead center of the gauge.

   Interesting......so just to clarify (im a little tired so bare with me) you lef the old block that the filter mounts to inplace and fitted the sandwich plate to that??
   
   Contacted the hose people to see if my order has been dispatched....if not i will alter the top hose first. We shall see what happens.
10. user_28362 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 5306 911 Turbo

    #10 5th April 2011, 22:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J222JRA Interesting......so just to clarify (im a little tired so bare with me) you lef the old block that the filter mounts to inplace and fitted the sandwich plate to that?? Contacted the hose people to see if my order has been dispatched....if not i will alter the top hose first. We shall see what happens.

    Yes, just removed the oil filter fitted the new mocal plate on , refitted a new oil filter. Works fine.
    
    Infact the water temperature also runs a notch cooler as well. I have fully thrashed the car the oil needle never moves above the middle. It used to go to the top
11. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

    #11 5th April 2011, 23:02

    Awesome......will bare that in mind.
12. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

    #12 6th April 2011, 18:40

    Help needed again guys.......so after speaking to various people it seems i need to buy a filter securing bolt thingy one from a vts that doesnt have the heat exchanger......now looked on service box, am i correct saying i need part 2 instead of 23??
13. Gareth_R Established Member Joined: Mar 2010 Basildon, Essex Posts: 1042 Citroen AX VTS

    #13 6th April 2011, 20:06

    Part no. Is in here isn't it?
    
    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87713
14. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #14 6th April 2011, 20:09

    Could be wrong, but it looks to me like 2 is for use with the heat exchanger, and 23 without.
15. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #15 6th April 2011, 20:14

    You shouldn't need any extra parts.
    
    In the order for removing the oil filter parts:
    
    - oil filter off
    - unscrew female/male thread adapter/bolt
    - remove heat exchanger
    
    Then to fit oil cooler is:
    - put take off plate against the block
    - screw the mocal supplied thread adapter on
    - screw oil filter on
    
    You shouldn't need any extra parts, other than those supplied with the mocal kit.
16. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #16 6th April 2011, 20:16

    In that diagram, you only need part no. 4 if you have part 23 already fitted to your Vts engine. If you have part 2 then you don't need part 4. You basically need a male thread in the block for the mocal adapter to screw onto.
    
    Then there should be a part within the oil cooler kit which is like part 2 but obviously the right depth to suit the take off plate
17. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

    #17 6th April 2011, 20:46

    Ross you are a legend yet again....if you go fcs or trax this year i owe you drinks!!
    
    Ive ordered the kit and yet another coolant hose, will strip the old heat exchanger off and see what im left with.....so maybe expect a pm soon hahaha
    
    Thanks everyone for your help.

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18. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #18 6th April 2011, 21:16

    Yeh no worries!! Pm away or bang some pictures up on here
    
    I think you'll have part 23 already, if so then you'll need part 4.
19. readie Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 leeds Posts: 2430 05' Clio 182

    #19 6th April 2011, 22:38

    i find that if you get the top rad hose of a 206 it fits perfectly and for you whores it has a bend in it which is the perfect curve around the PAS fluid res will get you a pic of it on mine! and oil coolers are very easy fitting where are you placing it? always loves the behind the fog light hole myself!