guide vts engine to vtr

4th July 2011, 18:30

is there a guide on here for a vts engine transplant into a vtr?

EDIT. i have looked for like 10 mins.

4th July 2011, 18:53

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...nversion+guide

That do?

4th July 2011, 19:09

I've just gone from vts to a 1.4 106 and i say don't even bother converting it.

4th July 2011, 19:20

^ i think he means he wants to put a vts engine in his vtr

4th July 2011, 19:27

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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5

^ i think he means he wants to put a vts engine in his vtr

I think lad above meant he sold his VTS for a 1.4 106, and a vts aint all that. Maybe...could be wrong

4th July 2011, 19:30

but wouldnt that be on the assuption hes putting a vtr engine in a vts and that he should because hes not happy he downgraded?

this thread is confusing tbh

4th July 2011, 19:48

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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5

but wouldnt that be on the assuption hes putting a vtr engine in a vts and that he should because hes not happy he downgraded?

this thread is confusing tbh

I think he means dont bother putting a VTS into a VTR cos he has just gone from a VTS to a 1.4 and he cant tell the difference.

I dont know, you've confused me now aswell

4th July 2011, 19:54

lol if he means he cant tell the different between 75 hp and 120 hp... theres a massive difference

4th July 2011, 20:53

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Originally Posted by Daniel09

lol if he means he cant tell the different between 75 hp and 120 hp... theres a massive difference

I think thats what he means, but im not sure

Anyway, threads off track, OP guide in my first post (#2) should sort you out

4th July 2011, 21:02

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Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

I've just gone from vts to a 1.4 106 and i say don't even bother converting it.

Why would you do that?

4th July 2011, 21:59

I mean that yes there is a difference but its not worth doing in my opinion as i can drive just as fast (as long as its not a long straight road) on most given roads as i could in the vts.

The main difference is in the 1.4 you put your foot down and you can sort of feel the torque and power straight away whereas you put your foot down in the 16v and nothing happens till you are past 4k rpm.

How can it put it simply and quickly?

For the money you might spend on converting the car i know its a cliche but first i would sort the handling and braking side of things out first as gen-up seriously this will make the car faster.

Yes your mates 1.8 corsa may still be faster in a straight line and yes you will be annoyed when ths subaru's and that fly past you but they will do that when you have a vts anyway.

Sort the handling out and with your 100 or so horsepower you can reach say 70mph and MAINTAIN that speed on all types of roads whereas your 120bhp car will reach that 70mph and then have to slow for a corner and brake or both etc etc etc

People say it all the time but this WILL make you faster. I remember having the VTR and saying that i needed 200bhp in it to keep up with modern cars but this was when i was about 23 and couldn't drive very well at all.

Have you looked into driving tuition at all as this can make you safer and faster than that extra 20bhp will give you and it will be cheaper too!

Im trying to offer you my genuine and experienced advice here. People im sure will jump on me and slate me for trying to say a 1.4 106 is as good as a vts etc but im not saying that. I've driven a 1.1 106 a 1.4 106 a 1.6 8v saxo and a 1.6 16v saxo for long periods of time so i know what im on about. Please don't waste money before thinking about it first.

We all make mistakes and we only learn by doing them but here you could just not make the mistakes i made. I honestly should have mildly tuned my 8v and whacked in a cage, decent brakes and suspension, buckets and got some tuition.

Hope this helps.

4th July 2011, 23:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard_corejoeboy

I mean that yes there is a difference but its not worth doing in my opinion as i can drive just as fast (as long as its not a long straight road) on most given roads as i could in the vts.

The main difference is in the 1.4 you put your foot down and you can sort of feel the torque and power straight away whereas you put your foot down in the 16v and nothing happens till you are past 4k rpm.

How can it put it simply and quickly?

For the money you might spend on converting the car i know its a cliche but first i would sort the handling and braking side of things out first as gen-up seriously this will make the car faster.

Yes your mates 1.8 corsa may still be faster in a straight line and yes you will be annoyed when ths subaru's and that fly past you but they will do that when you have a vts anyway.

Sort the handling out and with your 100 or so horsepower you can reach say 70mph and MAINTAIN that speed on all types of roads whereas your 120bhp car will reach that 70mph and then have to slow for a corner and brake or both etc etc etc

People say it all the time but this WILL make you faster. I remember having the VTR and saying that i needed 200bhp in it to keep up with modern cars but this was when i was about 23 and couldn't drive very well at all.

Have you looked into driving tuition at all as this can make you safer and faster than that extra 20bhp will give you and it will be cheaper too!

Im trying to offer you my genuine and experienced advice here. People im sure will jump on me and slate me for trying to say a 1.4 106 is as good as a vts etc but im not saying that. I've driven a 1.1 106 a 1.4 106 a 1.6 8v saxo and a 1.6 16v saxo for long periods of time so i know what im on about. Please don't waste money before thinking about it first.

We all make mistakes and we only learn by doing them but here you could just not make the mistakes i made. I honestly should have mildly tuned my 8v and whacked in a cage, decent brakes and suspension, buckets and got some tuition.

Hope this helps.

personally i think its worth the money if its what you want, but to be fair theres 100's of people on here that have done s conversions and i rekon 99% dont regret it, everyone likes power, for the say £700 u would pay for that 20 hp in a VTR you can get an s engine for under £100, then pay that 700 and see a hell of a lot more gain than you would spending it on a vtr..

iv owned a VTR, converted it to an S, never regretted it, now driving a genuine S, better engine providing you want power, and by this dude wanting to convert his car, im assuming he wants more power?

4th July 2011, 23:26

Yes of course an s engine will always make more power but you don't really need power to go fast.

Lotus Elise/Exige are prime examples.

and because i like videos i'll throw this one in

http://bridgetogantry.com/2/index.ph...&Itemid=300090

Skip to 4:25

4th July 2011, 23:36

I do agree on the handling side of things, my friend a couple years ago had a civic 1.4 5 door hatch, lowered, s drive tyres, new pads and discs braided hoses strut brace and on a b road he would be keeping up with a mate in a standard celica gt. Improved handling, brakes and suspension etc would see you with a quicker all round car.

4th July 2011, 23:40

Safer and fuel efficient too

5th July 2011, 12:21

i agree mate but its doubtful scoobys will be passing my car

ASLONG AS ITS NOT ME DRIVING!!

its for my brother really, he has a vtr but wants to do the s conversion along with piper cams 4-1 mani etc. he wants to go bodies aswel.

im not to clued up on the vtr to S conversions so thought i would check it out and atleast then i can give him an idea.

thanks people