16v stem seals replacement GUIDE

  1. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2004 Grimsby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 5489 SUPERCHARGED saxo vts
    #1
    i am doing some work on a 16v j4 head.

    i wish to renew the valve stem seals. i have attempted to remove them from the guides but can only tare small bits off and cannot get them off fully.

    i have used the search button and google but cant find anything for saxo 16v head.

    is there a special tool i need?
  2. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #2
    Just try grab the seals by the metal bit with some pliers, try getting a nice tight grip and twist them off
  3. Established Member Joined: Mar 2011 Birmingham Posts: 2148 Rover BRM, Rover 800 Coupe, Mk6 golf.
    #3
    As above, Once you've got the nack of getting one of them off they're really easy lol. I was the same when i first did mine.
  4. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2004 Grimsby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 5489 SUPERCHARGED saxo vts
    #4
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    Just try grab the seals by the metal bit with some pliers, try getting a nice tight grip and twist them off
    the metal bit inside is the valve guide isnt it? the last time i took your advise do you remember? because i do!

    not being funny but this time have you removed them on 16v before?
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  5. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #5
    i used a special tool when removing mine out my 16v head
  6. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R
    #6
    They can be tight buggers, i think in the end i got a small blade and carefully put a slit along the side and they just fell off.

    There is a metal spring ring which normally just pulls off leaving the majority of the rubber seal on there

    Dont grab the metal bit as thats the valve guide and you cant pull it off, it'll just get torn up and wont help the new stem seals sit right and seal
  7. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #7
    I've not removed any vts ones, so your more then welcome to wait fr other ppls opinion


    There is a metal jacket round the seal, under the spring you can see

    Just grab the metal jacket with some pliers and wiggle/twist them off
  8. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #8
    Not what I would have used... But you get the idea

    http://www.google.co.uk/search?tbm=i...0&bih=356#i=48
  9. Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 751
    #9
    I just used a set of large plyers and pulled them off. They are almost impossible to remove them without destroying them, but you can get them off in one piece. Getting the new ones on square and without damaging them can also be tricky.
  10. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire
    #10
    What i use:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Valve-Stem-P.../dp/B000ROB90E
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  11. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #11
    Didn't even know you could get them tom!!

    I've always used pliers like, once you've done a few youll get the knack for it
  12. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire
    #12
    Yea ther awsome them you cant squash them too much so its perfect can whip a full 16 out in about 2-3mins
  13. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 Surrey Posts: 2608 200sx s14a mark 1 vts
    #13
    I just used needle nose pliers or a magnet to remove them, they where quite loose on mine, piece of cake to do
  14. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #14
    It's putting them back in that pisses me off.. They're always dead sharp on the edge aswel lol
  15. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire
    #15
    10mm socket on an extension bar fits perfect onto the 16v ones can just push them on.
  16. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2004 Grimsby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 5489 SUPERCHARGED saxo vts
    #16
    right lads....

    i couldnt find a guide or any pictures for doing these so i took plenty...

    this is how i used them. you could call this a guide for removing 16v stem seals ?

    start off here with the head removed from the car. take a look at the old stem seals in place. as you can see the head is deep....



    next move is to reach inside with some pliars



    i found it hard to get a good grip as they kept slipping so i made a groove on the teeth of the grips for extra grip...




    reaching back down to the seals i wiggled them in all directions before commiting with a good grip and pulled them out.



    lift the old seal out. after 74,000 miles mine were hard and not supple any more.



    view of one seals removed and one in situ.



    then repeat until all seals are removed.



    i will continue with a fitting of new seals once i have finished with the head (p&p).
  17. Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 rotherham Posts: 1832 Be scirocco, full on 03plate track spec Saxo
    #17
    help here how to rebuild the whole head to http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=328665
  18. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #18
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tom5190 View Post
    10mm socket on an extension bar fits perfect onto the 16v ones can just push them on.
    Tried this on Friday, easiest so far.. I normally pushed them on, hurts like a cunt as the edges are sharp lol