xsara vts engine in saxo

1. mike_jones_401 Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2008 bridgend Posts: 612 vtr but not for long vts :-) mk4 golf gti 150 bhp

   #1 26th December 2012, 14:14

   me and my mate are thinking of putting the xsara 2.0 vts engine in my vtr has anyone done this and does anyone know how much work it would be?
2. welshpug Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.

   #2 26th December 2012, 14:29

   massive amount of work, engine bay is the wrong shape, its too wide and too deep as it usually sits.
   
   if you want a non tu lump then an EW is a better bet, or Honda.
3. hazlo Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 452

   #3 26th December 2012, 14:35

   as above buddy! Its like with the pug 106 everyones been saying to me to stick a gti6 lump in there... Not quite that simple! Also would most likely have a negative effect on the handling.
4. mike_jones_401 Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2008 bridgend Posts: 612 vtr but not for long vts :-) mk4 golf gti 150 bhp

   #4 26th December 2012, 14:46

   okay so what engine would you recommend then something not to hard and lots of power as going to sell golf and keep the saxo
5. hazlo Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 452

   #5 26th December 2012, 14:58

   go for the 1.6 16v engine from a vts is the most popular, or the tu5jp4 from a 206/c2 etc etc as you can pick them up with very low mileage. Anyway you then want to decide what your budget is as that will govern how much power to aim for whilst keeping the car reliable. Tuning wise, for sub £2000 or there abouts you can go ITB's and ph3 cams or similar, which seem to acheive in the region of 165hp atf once mapped up. Or i you have a bigger budget you can go boost, basically i you've got like 4-5k plus to spend you can go all out forged engine and acheive big power!
6. Sexysaxojames Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2012 Crawley Posts: 158 Saxo vts

   #6 26th December 2012, 15:15

   I've just heard stick to the 1.6vts
7. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

   #7 26th December 2012, 15:21

   AUG 1.8t would be my lump of choice if I were looking for power. Stick with the TU5 engines though - they're good (well, good for up to around 500hp)... If you want to be different, then lob something else in, but there's a lot to be had from the trusty TU

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8. choko_h Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2011 Bulgaria Posts: 130 Forged Citroen Saxo VTS 16v mk2 (2002)

   #8 26th December 2012, 15:47

   Checkout this thread dude. Probably if I will swap my default engine with a bigger than the TU5J4/JP4 maybe my choice will be one of these: Xsara VTS 2.0 engine or Mi16. But I think that it's a waste of money and time. I think the TU engine is better for a small car just you need to upgrade it.
9. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

   #9 26th December 2012, 15:59

   TU has a big problem, it's gearbox.. No simple/cheap way round this.
   
   Go for a duratec engine, very light and LOTS of off the shelf parts
10. hazlo Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 452

    #10 26th December 2012, 16:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dannygti TU has a big problem, it's gearbox.. No simple/cheap way round this. Go for a duratec engine, very light and LOTS of off the shelf parts

    
    Oh yeah i think there is a guy on the 106oc doing this isnt there?

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11. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

    #11 26th December 2012, 16:06

    That's a Zetec, another option.. Could use a focus RS engine.. 350hp no problem.. And a gearbox that won't break every other day
12. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #12 26th December 2012, 16:06

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dannygti TU has a big problem, it's gearbox.. No simple/cheap way round this. Go for a duratec engine, very light and LOTS of off the shelf parts

    Stick a be box on from a xsara/306 etc
13. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

    #13 26th December 2012, 16:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chinkostu Stick a be box on from a xsara/306 etc

    With a decent amount of power a BE box won't last that's long..
14. hazlo Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 452

    #14 26th December 2012, 16:26

    also does a BE box it straight onto a tu engine?
15. welshpug Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.

    #15 26th December 2012, 16:29

    if you find the right one yes.